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Wow, UK has lost freedom of speech

Thermal said:
Agreed. That is not misgendering, or anything else inappropriate. It might indicate that you are still wrestling with the concept of pronouns, but whatevs.

No one suggests anything is your fault, or whether or not Susan has been diagnosed with GD, but again, whatevs.

Absolutely. Why, I shouldn't be stopped from calling women the C word in the workplace. Why should they force me to change how I talk? The C word is a common term of endearment in many English speaking... ahem... countries, yeah?
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Calling someone Susan, and calling them a ◊◊◊◊, is a little diffeent.

Even you can see that.
 
Hercules56 said:
There is no official designation in the USA of "domestic terrorist group".

Trump said it, but he made it up and its fake.
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The Executive Branch is literally making an official designation.

Domestic terrorism as a category of terrorism is officially designated both by the Legislative Branch, for example in the Patriot Act, and by the Executive Branch, for example, in the FBI taxonomy of criminal activities.

en.wikipedia.org

Domestic terrorism in the United States - Wikipedia

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There is nothing improper or fake about the Executive Branch taking official notice of a group/organization/gang that is involved or engaged in acts of domestic terrorism.
 
Hercules56 said:
We are talking about government censorship and prosecution.

Not what private businesses do.
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Not if you are talking about the UK, our right to freedom of expression isn't limited to what the government can and cannot do, it extends for instance into the workplace, regardless of whether your employer is a private company or not.
 
theprestige said:
The Executive Branch is literally making an official designation....
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Trumpfuhrer has NO authority whatsoever to designate a new category of criminal organization.

Congress, and only Congress, can pass a new law creating a new criminal entity known as "domestic terrorist group", and make it a crime to provide material or financial support to said groups.

However, its is unconstitutional to ban providing moral support to foreign or domestic terrorist groups or enemies.

Hamas and Hezbollah are registered as foreign terrorist groups with the US State Dept and yet I am very free to walk the sidewalks with their flags shouting my praise for them.
 
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Darat said:
Not if you are talking about the UK, our right to freedom of expression isn't limited to what the government can and cannot do, it extends for instance into the workplace, regardless of whether your employer is a private company or not.
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Kool.

Meanwhile I am talking about government censorship and prosecution of speech, not what private entities do.

That is the whole point of the OP.
 
Hercules56 said:
Kool.

Meanwhile I am talking about government censorship and prosecution of speech, not what private entities do.

That is the whole point of the OP.
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Not if you are talking about the UK, our right to freedom of expression isn't limited to what the government can and cannot do, it extends for instance into the workplace, regardless of whether your employer is a private company or not.
 
Hercules56 said:
Kool.

Meanwhile I am talking about government censorship and prosecution of speech, not what private entities do.

That is the whole point of the OP.
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You want to get back to the OP? Kewlsie Wewelsies.

The UK is clamping down on people that deliberately stir up ◊◊◊◊ which leads directly to public disorder. Not every one, but some here and there, some of which are overreach cases that don't go any further, like the OP case. Ok. Not exactly a revolutionary overreach, to my eye.
 
Hercules56 said:
www.jpost.com

Yorkshire police arrest UK man for 'F*** Hamas' X post | The Jerusalem Post

Pete North, 47, was arrested over the meme on suspicion of committing a public order offence.
www.jpost.com www.jpost.com

How is this possible?

In the UK if you post "◊◊◊◊ Hamas" or "◊◊◊◊ Palestine" on Facebook or Twitter, you go to jail???

When did this insanity start?
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Just a reminder, this thread is about being sent to jail, fined, or other government enforced penalty for speech in public.
 
Thermal said:
You want to get back to the OP? Kewlsie Wewelsies.

The UK is clamping down on people that deliberately stir up ◊◊◊◊ which leads directly to public disorder. Not every one, but some here and there, some of which are overreach cases that don't go any further, like the OP case. Ok. Not exactly a revolutionary overreach, to my eye.
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Its not stirring up ◊◊◊◊ to condemn the genocide in Gaza and calling for the UK govt to install strong military, trade and diplomatic sanctions on Israel till the war crimes, genocide and apartheid ends.
 
Hercules56 said:
Just a reminder, this thread is about being sent to jail, fined, or other government enforced penalty for speech in public.
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Just a reminder, North was not sent to jail, fined, or endures any other government enforced penalty. He was arrested and questioned, having a long track record of arrests and racial.agitation. He has not been charged or incarcerated.
 
Hercules56 said:
Its not stirring up ◊◊◊◊ to condemn the genocide in Gaza and calling for the UK govt to install strong military, trade and diplomatic sanctions on Israel till the war crimes, genocide and apartheid ends.
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Agreed. "◊◊◊◊ Islam" and ordering protestors out of the country kinda is stirring up ◊◊◊◊, and as an avowed racist, right up North's alley.
 
Thermal said:
Just a reminder, North was not sent to jail, fined, or endures any other government enforced penalty. He was arrested and questioned, having a long track record of arrests and racial.agitation. He has not been charged or incarcerated.
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The arrest seems to be massive overkill.
 
Thermal said:
Agreed. "◊◊◊◊ Islam" and ordering protestors out of the country kinda is stirring up ◊◊◊◊, and as an avowed racist, right up North's alley.
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Nobody was "ordered" to do anything as he had no such authority to order anyone to do ◊◊◊◊.

And absolutely, I should be able to take a plane to London today, get off, take a taxi to Trafalgar Square, and shout for 5 minutes "◊◊◊◊ islam!!! ◊◊◊◊ Palestine!!! ◊◊◊◊ Gaza!!!!"

No none ever said Freedom of Speech was polite.
 
Hercules56 said:
Nobody was "ordered" to do anything as he had no such authority to order anyone to do ◊◊◊◊.

And absolutely, I should be able to take a plane to London today, get off, take a taxi to Trafalgar Square, and shout for 5 minutes "◊◊◊◊ islam!!! ◊◊◊◊ Palestine!!! ◊◊◊◊ Gaza!!!!"

No none ever said Freedom of Speech was polite.
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Ok. Knock yourself out. Or someone else might do so for you :)
 
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