Merged Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University event. / Charlie Kirk Shot And Killed

That "wet cement" thing:

Looking at some LDS subs on Reddit, and they are saying that the suspect couldn't possibly be Mormon or from a Mormon family because news reports described the father as a "pastor" or "minister" or some other title. Since LDS doesn't use those titles, BOOM!, he's not Mormon.

Really, not all news agencies know LDS terminology. He was probably a Bishop. LDS has tens of thousands of Bishops, it's just the title of the leader of a neighborhood "Ward" church. It's a temporary rotating position.

Incidentally, I used to live in St. George and knew a kid named Tyler who was probably about the right age to be this kid. And his dad was a cop. But I think about 1/4 of the white boys in St. George were named Tyler so that's not saying much. And I knew a lot of law enforcement people there too.
 
Just how well known outside of the terminally online was Charlie Kirk? Because all I see from people praising him are these vague statements about free speech and being a conservative activist. No one seems to pinpoint any specific actions or quotes from him that were insightful or intelligent or beneficial to society. But, there are plenty of examples of him saying some really vile and inflammatory things. There's the list he made of professors and students to target for harassment (and worse).

There was just nothing remarkable about him. He was a younger, louder, stupider Ben Shapiro. He was just another nondescript, mediocre, easily replaceable, shameless white guy with a billionaire sugar daddy. would someone really expect to get famous for shooting him?
Radio 4 played a clip of him "debating" last night.

A favoured tactic seemed to be asking folk to define "woman" without using the term "woman", but when he was asked to define "man", he would say, "You're looking at one!"

That isn't even at 8 year old levels of arguing...

Indeed, eulogizing him as the intellectual and moral foundation of the MAGA movement isn't the flex his fans think it is.
He was a sexist, racist, islama/homo/transphobe christian nationalist shock jock. He will be lionized by the trumpublican party, and his murder will a rallying cry for further marginalization of anyone deemed left. The murderer will be labled leftist, inspired by leftist rhetoric. The cultists, and uniformed "independents" will eat this up.

Epstein? Epstein who?
 
@Andy_Ross I'm not sure what you expected me to take from this:
Dominik Tarczyński MEP
@D_Tarczynski
As conservatives, we requested a minute of silence in the European Parliament to honor Charlie Kirk. The left, calling themselves democrats, naturally refused. They are the same everywhere… Even in the face of death, they are incapable of showing human compassion. Therefore, I will organize an exhibition in the European Parliament commemorating Charlie Kirk. His legacy will bear fruit…
It doesn't alter my view that it's stupid for anyone at all to expect EU Parliament to give a crap about any US activist.
 
I think this hype over the shooting will make other big influencer look like jucier targets for someone who only seeks notoriety.
"Influencer" is a stupid made up internet term for people who can sucker idiots into believing their pap. Anyone who's thinking is swayed by an "influencer" is a low grade imbecile.
 
"Influencer" is a stupid made up internet term for people who can sucker idiots into believing their pap. Anyone who's thinking is swayed by an "influencer" is a low grade imbecile.

well i got bad news for you, there's a ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ of people like that. millions upon millions upon millions.

propagandist would probably be a pre internet analogue to influencer
 
"Influencer" is a stupid made up internet term for people who can sucker idiots into believing their pap. Anyone who's thinking is swayed by an "influencer" is a low grade imbecile.

Although I have to admit to a degree of fascination, I thought 'Reality TV Star' was about as low as the human race could get. It makes you wonder what comes next..
 
Just checked a Norwegian editorial about how the Norwegian papers (at least some of them) are referring to him as 'conservative', as opposed to far-right. Not sure if anyone will be able to open this, but here's the translated version. It has an excellent rundown of the horrible things he said, too.

Also note the comments thread, where the usual suspects are out in force to gaslight. He was just a moderate who wanted debate, dontchaknow, and whoever calls him a racist are just meanies who can't tolerate disagreement.
I note they never say that when the left utters controversial opinions🙄.

"Influencer" is a stupid made up internet term for people who can sucker idiots into believing their pap. Anyone who's thinking is swayed by an "influencer" is a low grade imbecile.
This. I miss the time when blogs were people writing about their daily lives and whatever interested them. Now they (along with vlogs) are thinly veiled commercial channels.
 
Just checked a Norwegian editorial about how the Norwegian papers (at least some of them) are referring to him as 'conservative', as opposed to far-right. Not sure if anyone will be able to open this, but here's the translated version. It has an excellent rundown of the horrible things he said, too.

Also note the comments thread, where the usual suspects are out in force to gaslight. He was just a moderate who wanted debate, dontchaknow, and whoever calls him a racist are just meanies who can't tolerate disagreement.
I note they never say that when the left utters controversial opinions🙄.


This. I miss the time when blogs were people writing about their daily lives and whatever interested them. Now they (along with vlogs) are thinly veiled commercial channels.

I miss when people became famous for actually being able to do something or having done something noteworthy.
 

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