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The sinking of MS Estonia: Case Reopened Part VII

MarkCorrigan said:
This is gibberish, it is also wrong, and you're still lying about me.

Point out where I claimed it was a mundane deportation. Go on. Find the post.

This is the problem Vixen, I don't have a beef with you, you just continue to lie about what people, myself included say to you. It's either deliberate trolling in which case it's pathetic, or it's an attempt to smear your interlocutors in which case it's pathetic, disgusting and intellectually dishonest.
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You provide proof I called you a racist and you'll find that your misconceived claim directly relates to the issue of the two guys Sweden renditioned at the request of the USA.
 
Vixen said:
You can do a search of the forum. Just type in 'rendition' and hopefully, all the facts will come up.
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Your claimed 'evidence' that they had been disappeared was a decision of an unnamed "court of law", a European Court of Human Rights judgment and the "Treaty 1988 (Criminal Law)", none of which you were ever able to provide a link or proper citation for (despite, for example, all ECHR judgments being publicly available and searchable on the HUDOC database), and “Articles 58 through to 67” of the 1998 Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, which turned out to be about the court's procedure.

You also linked to a UNCAT decision (although your anchor text for the link said "UNHCR", and a UN Human Rights Committee decision on the University of Minnesota website (your anchor text for that one said "ECHR Human Rights Library"), neither of which said that they had been disappeared.

You never mentioned an admission by Sweden that they had been disappeared.
 
MarkCorrigan said:
It's not an insult, it's a factually accurate assessment of your posts. Either you forget what the person you're talking to is saying, you're deliberately lying about what people post to smear them and poison the well or you're making up our side of the conversation in your head.
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What 'conversation in your head'? This all sounds like a personal attack.
 
Mojo said:
Your claimed 'evidence' that they had been disappeared was a decision of an unnamed "court of law", a European Court of Human Rights judgment and the "Treaty 1988 (Criminal Law)", none of which you were ever able to provide a link or proper citation for (despite, for example, all ECHR judgments being publicly available and searchable on the HUDOC database), and “Articles 58 through to 67” of the 1998 Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, which turned out to be about the court's procedure.

You also linked to a UNCAT decision (although your anchor text for the link said "UNHCR", and a UN Human Rights Committee decision on the University of Minnesota website (your anchor text for that one said "ECHR Human Rights Library"), neither of which said that they had been disappeared.

You never mentioned an admission by Sweden that they had been disappeared.
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This was all discussed and resolved at the time. If anyone is interested in this particular issue you can click on this link that explains it\@

The Rendition Project

The issue of whether people get disappeared or not, relates to the so-called missing Estonian crew and captain.
 
Vixen said:
This was all discussed and resolved at the time. If anyone is interested in this particular issue you can click on this link that explains it\@

The Rendition Project

The issue of whether people get disappeared or not, relates to the so-called missing Estonian crew and captain.
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Again, that doesn't support your claim that they were disappeared.
 
Vixen said:
You provide proof I called you a racist and you'll find that your misconceived claim directly relates to the issue of the two guys Sweden renditioned at the request of the USA.
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I said you implied I was racist and adequately backed it up at the time. You asked, rhetorically, if I was OK with what Sweden did because it happened to two of 'those people'. The implication was pretty obvious but when you claimed that you were not backhanded accusing me of being a racist you never explained what you meant or how your phrasing could be interpreted any other way.
 
MarkCorrigan said:
I said you implied I was racist and adequately backed it up at the time. You asked, rhetorically, if I was OK with what Sweden did because it happened to two of 'those people'. The implication was pretty obvious but when you claimed that you were not backhanded accusing me of being a racist you never explained what you meant or how your phrasing could be interpreted any other way.
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I'm sorry if that is the impression you got. You did insist it was an ordinary deportation so I am not sure how the information could be conveyed without your being disabused of your notion.
 
Vixen said:
I'm sorry if that is the impression you got. You did insist it was an ordinary deportation so I am not sure how the information could be conveyed without your being disabused of your notion.
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No, I didn't. Quote me saying that or withdraw the accusation.
 
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