I would venture to guess that Sall Grover doesn't feel that the "freedom" of some Australians to insult, disparage, and vilify people are limited in much of a way. The abuse, harassment, and threats Grover has faced over the past few years for *gasp* making an app for female humans to connect with other female humans without interference from male humans has been pretty astonishing.
Completely agree. Now just a few more steps...
I'm gonna need you to elaborate on this, Darat. My current impression is that a significant part of why the whole GRA thing happened at all was because it allowed some males to transition to "women" and then they could legally marry another male without running afoul of UK's rather homophobic laws.
Baloney. A tomboy is nothing more than a female that enjoys physical activity and climbing trees, and isn't particularly into baby dolls.
No, not at all. At no point did I "pretend" to be a male, at no point did I (or anyone else) think I should have been a male, nor did anyone ever mistake me for a male or think I was in any way comparable to a male.
I hope that in a couple of decades, everyone who reads that crap will interpret it as "back when we were being stupid and ideologically captured, we let a male cheat. That male set "records" against females that don't come even remotely close to competitive times for males. We lost our minds and decided that celebrating a mediocre male was more important than fairness for females".Yup, and they are still acknowledging Will Thomas' performances against the women.
UPenn Updates Swimming Records After Title IX Violations, Still Acknowledges Lia Thomas With Special Note
Lia Thomas is still highlighted in UPenn's women's swimming records book.www.outkick.com
"The UPenn women's swimming record book was updated on July 1 based on the updated URL that contains the date, and Thomas is still listed as a member of the 400m free relay team that set a school record time of 3:17:80 while a special note was added to the bottom of the page."NOTE: Competing under eligibility rules in effect at the time, Lia Thomas set program records in the 100, 200 and 500 freestyle during the 2021-22 season," the note reads.Thomas' roster page on the UPenn athletics website also acknowledges the school record time of 3:17:80 in the 400m free relay team event."
NO. Those eligibility rules were not in effect at the time, because those rules violated Title IX. Therefore, Thomas was NEVER eligible to compete in the first place. Its not enough to just restore the records and the championships to the women who rightly deserved them. Will Thomas' name needs to be totally erased from the records. It should be like he never existed in the women's categories. Instead, list all his times in the UPenn men's record book..... Oh wait! He won't appear in the men's records, because he was too slow and not good enough.
Its is clear that UPenn have been dragged kicking and screaming into making this decision, and its obvious they still vehemently believe they were correct to allow him to compete.
Stop steersmanning this discussion. The pathway has to do with the type of reproductive system, it does not have anything to do with whether or not the gametes are fertile. A sterile female is still a female, a sterile male is still a male.
People with CAIS pass the first step of gonadal differentiation into testes, but the do NOT follow the wolffian pathway. They are incapable of developing any male reproductive anatomy at all, and they develop with partial female reproductive anatomy. The mullerian system is the fallopian tubes and uterus, and those disintegrate. But their undifferentiated tissue develops into female organs of vulva, labia, and vagina. Their undifferentiated tissues do NOT develop into male organs of scrotum and penis.
theparadoxinstitute.org
In my anecdotal experience the t people back then were saying they refused gender roles, not arguing about sex. One person I knew was female but wanted to be treated as a man, they got a girlfriend who also wanted to be treated as a man, but accepted they were lesbians. It was all very confusing.
Why is 'boy' in the label?
Why is "worm" in the label "ringworm"? It's not a worm.
I didn't say you were pretending to be a boy, I said in terms of labels you were a 'pretend boy' from other peoples point of view watching on. who labelled you as a tomboy.
It's interesting that if you don't understand my question you immediately go to name calling or ad homs etc. You have done it several times in this thread, interesting.
You'd think so... but actually no. Gonadal differentiation (normally) occurs before the mullerian or wolffian pathway. When the gonads differentiate from ovotestes into testicular or ovarian tissue, the fetus still has both mullerian ducts and wolffian ducts, and has bipotential genitalia. During normal fetal development, the differentiated gonads are what trigger the hormones that complete development of one set of ducts and the dissolution of the other set.
I think you're confused about what ad hom means. Criticizing your level of analysis is specifically addressing your argument, not you. That's the opposite of an ad hom. And there was never any name calling. If you're this sensitive to criticism, perhaps you should find somewhere else to post. In the mean time, if you decide to continue to participate, try actually addressing the argument yourself.
No. No one thinks tomboys are pretend boys. They think they are atypical girls.
Meh, theprestige got the order of operations incorrect.
No, it's not ambiguous in CAIS, it's interrupted. We could quibble all day about whether to consider CAIS individuals male or female, and perhaps never come to a full agreement. From an evolutionary perspective, they're male; from a medical perspective, they're female.
There are a lot of really good organizations out there raising awareness for autism, and helping both kids and adults with autism learn about their condition, how their brains work, and how to adapt to society. None of it needs to involve a grown male dressing like a female toddler, wearing diapers, and sucking on a pacifier.
No problem - a different forum converted to xenforo several years back, and I had to very painfully learn how to do this
Literally nobody saw me as a "pretend boy". They saw me, quite rightly, as a young female who happened to enjoy doing things that were commonly assumed to be activities that young males liked. There was no pretense of any sort involved, not from anyone's perspective.
Yes you're correct, sorry Ziggurat I take my accusation back as you haven't ad homed me looking back on the thread, I apologize.
If 'ring' or 'worm' was a gender label then you could compare it to 'tomboy', but 'ringworm' has nothing to do with gender or sex and to do with people thinking the ring was a parasite, hence 'worm'.