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Car Incident in Liverpool

He's been arrested now on suspicion of attempt murder, driving while unfit through drink or drugs*, and dangerous driving. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn5xnlkegz0t

*I suspect that they held off arresting him until he was sober enough to understand the charge.

Apparently the cordon was lifted to allow an ambulance to attend a spectator suffering a possible cardiac arrest, and he tailgated the ambulance. This may be why one of the people hit was a paramedic.
 
The rules are simple around here; if it's a foreigner (ie someone not blindingly white, and not from northern Europe, Canada or USA), it's terrorism. Otherwise, it's some kind of mental problem, and the people who were victims of the accident/attack probably deserved it by being female, a foreigner, and/or left-leaning. This model is very easy to understand - this is obvious when you see how many of the people who otherwise struggle with understanding nuanced reality get it instantly - and is recommended by many people in my part pf the world.
 
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Agatha said:
He's been arrested now on suspicion of attempt murder, driving while unfit through drink or drugs*, and dangerous driving. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn5xnlkegz0t

*I suspect that they held off arresting him until he was sober enough to understand the charge.

Apparently the cordon was lifted to allow an ambulance to attend a spectator suffering a possible cardiac arrest, and he tailgated the ambulance. This may be why one of the people hit was a paramedic.
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Again that figures,.

Driving under the influence of drugs/alcohol (so an arsehole to start with who doesn't care about other road users) thinks he can use the ambulance to get through the road closure, car gets stopped by the crowd, he panicks and tries to use the car to force his way out/use it as a weapon to escape.
 
Consensus among the right on social media is that the driver is not a 53 year old white man.

A 53 year old white man may have been arrested but he wasn't the driver.

it's a lie to cover up that he's a Muslim.

If they reveal he's not what is claimed then this time there is going to be hell on earth and both Parliament and Downing Street will burn.

I can post a range of examples if needed.

Surprisingly large number of American MAGA accounts supporting the claim.
 
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Mojo said:
How did you identify this consentus?
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By reading their posts.

How bout GB News for a start?

Patrick Christys
@PatrickChristys
Some confusion as to whether or not the 53-year-old man arrested is in fact the driver - we are expecting a press conference shortly. We'll bring it to you live on @GBNEWS
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Plenty of others

Free-born Englishman by grace of God
@an50233675
The police statement was very carefully worded and did not say that the 53 year old man arrested had been driving the car.
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tk3r
@iph0ne
They release the information of A man who’s been arrested, hoping you’ll think they’re describing the driver.
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Comments on the police statement

"They're covering up something big here, but it'll all come to the surface, just like Southport did."

"As per usual, trying to cover up who this is. They knew it wasn't one of us."

"It will be interesting if this man dies in prison whilst on remand!"




Ben Habib
@BackBrexitBen
They say it wasn’t terrorism. Just like they did after Southport.
A man drives through crowds (sound familiar?) and we’re told he was just “on drugs.”
Forgive me if I don’t buy the official line; at least not yet. We’ve been here before — and the truth came out far too late.
 
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The police have told people not to speculate but of course people are speculating like mad. 'Geoff Buys Cars' keeps popping up on my Twitter/X timeline. Currently he has been obsessively looking into the history of the Ford Galaxy people carrier involved. Over the last hour, he has investigated the car number with DVLA, remarking on its low mileage, dug up the MOT...not sure what his point is. :unsure:

Apparently it is strange nobody has footage of the 'real driver' being arrested.

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Vixen said:
That is not road rage. That is wanton reckless intent to cause harm or even death. His beeping is not ipso facto his warning people,
it could be seen as an act of aggression to startle and alarm everyone in his path for the fun of seeing them jump out of the way or land on his windscreen A spiteful malicious act. There is no justification for having four people, including a child, trapped under your car.


"I had a medical incident, M'Lud. My foot got stuck on the gas and I couldn't move it away. Sorry about that."

"Case dismissed."


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This is complete drivel.

First of all, “road rage” is hardly an excuse, but I think it more accurately fits the description of what happened than your idea of him beeping the horn for fun.

I think it is seeming more obvious that he never went there intending to run people down, but for some idiotic reason tried to drive through the road and was probably drunk or on drugs.

My reference to road rage is how he reacted to people banging on his car. Obviously it makes more sense that after escalating the incident he tried to escape the angry crowd and at first tried to warn people to get out the way then became less concerned about their safety and more concerned about his as he continued to escalate the problem.
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The police have told people not to speculate but of course people are speculating like mad.
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Yes, Vixen. Like the idea that he was probably beeping his horn because it was fun for him to watch the terrified faces.
 
angrysoba said:
This is complete drivel.

First of all, “road rage” is hardly an excuse, but I think it more accurately fits the description of what happened than your idea of him beeping the horn for fun.

I think it is seeming more obvious that he never went there intending to run people down, but for some idiotic reason tried to drive through the road and was probably drunk or on drugs.

My reference to road rage is how he reacted to people banging on his car. Obviously it makes more sense that after escalating the incident he tried to escape the angry crowd and at first tried to warn people to get out the way then became less concerned about their safety and more concerned about his as he continued to escalate the problem.

Yes, Vixen. Like the idea that he was probably beeping his horn because it was fun for him to watch the terrified faces.
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No, my thoughts were that his intention in beeping was to be obnoxiously rude, not polite, as you seem to infer. I would hold off blaming the Liverpool fans for his 'road rage' before we have been appraised of all of the facts. I see nothing in this incident of his being a mild mannered gent driven to road rage because he was scared by 'Liverpool thugs'. The scene in which they are seen kicking his car and his backing into them doesn't tell you what happened immediately before. Nobody runs over multliple people - including very young children and babies in prams - because of 'football hooligans'. At age 53 that 'excuse' doesn't wash.
 
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Vixen said:
No, my thoughts were that his intention in beeping was to be obnoxiously rude, not polite, as you seem to infer. I would hold off blaming the Liverpool fans for his 'road rage' before we have been appraised of all of the facts. I see nothing in this incident of his being a mild mannered gent driven to road rage because he was scared by 'Liverpool thugs'. The scene in which they are seen kicking his car and his backing into them doesn't tell you what happened immediately before. Nobody runs over multliple people - including very young children and babies in prams - because of 'football hooligans'. At age 53 that 'excuse' doesn't wash.

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Never called him a “mild-mannered gent”. Stop lying.

Also, who said “road rage” was ever exculpatory?

Most people who get road rage are utter pricks.
 
Vixen said:
That is not road rage. That is wanton reckless intent to cause harm or even death.
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In fact, there's no such thing as "reckless intent". If someone causes death through recklessness then manslaughter can be charged, if they cause death with intent to harm then the appropriate charge is murder.
 
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