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Destiny and Free will

Emre_1974tr said:
Spirit= revelation:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=3779.msg18107#msg18107
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1- Spirit is revelation,

2- holy spirit (the angel messenger conveying the message, revelation angel)

3- and revelation book (Quran).

Spirit= revelation.

Let's give examples.

1- Revelation
Quran [15:29] "So when I perfect him, and blow of My Spirit in him, you shall fall prostrate to him."

2- Revelation Angel (Cebrail).
Quran 19:17. Thus, she kept herself in seclusion from people. Then We sent to her Our spirit, and it appeared before her in the form of a perfect man.

3- Revelation Book/Quran
Quran 42:52 And thus We have revealed to you an inspiration of Our command. You did not know what is the Book or [what is] faith, but We have made it a light by which We guide whom We will of Our servants. And indeed, [O Muhammad], you guide to a straight path -

spirit = revelation.
And basic verses in our body like Adam:

Quran 30:30So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. [Adhere to] the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created [all] people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah . That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.

We are obliged to direct the truth through the verses inside.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
Again:

Everyone is free to believe what they wish, according to Quran. This is the goal of the test world. To confront yourself.

Quran only allows a war of defense.

If you read the full of the verses, you will always see the struggle with the attackers in the defense battle.

Example;

2:190 Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress, God does not like the aggressors.

2:191 Fight them wherever you meet them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. Do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then fight them. Thus is the reward of those who do not appreciate.

2:192 If they cease, then God is Forgiving, Compassionate.

2:193 Fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is God's. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.

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Here again, He says, fight with the attackers.

But if you pull out a single verse. You make it look like saying the opposite.

And look at:

49:9 And if two parties of believers battle with each other, you shall reconcile them; but if one of them aggresses against the other, then you shall fight the one aggressing until it complies with the command of God. Once it complies, then you shall reconcile the two groups with justice, and be equitable; for God loves those who are equitable.

As you can see saying, if the attackers are Muslims, stop them too.
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The holy Quran Corrects the False Bible Again

"Contradiction; God in the Bible orders his followers in a battle to kill every living thing including, women, children, and animals;

“Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I will punish what Am’alek did to Israel in opposing them on the way, when they came up out of Egypt. Go and attack the Amalekites and completely destroy everything they have. Don’t leave a thing; kill all the men, women, children, and babies; the cattle, sheep, camels, and donkeys.” (1 Samuel 15:2–3)

Excuse; None available.

Correction: God orders Muslims in the Quran to have patience against those who attack you, and if the attacks persist, we are only to retaliate with the same amount we were attacked with and to never go beyond the amount of attack we received:

“And if you take your turn, then retaliate with the like of that with which you were afflicted; But if ye endure patiently, verily it is better for the patient.” (Quran 16:126)"
 
See now all you're doing is preaching. Naughty naughty. If you want to talk to us Emre talk to us, not at us.
 
MarkCorrigan said:
Emre do you think we are Christians?
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Most of you are not. But there are some Christian missionaries among you and they are pretending. Some pretend to be atheists, some pretend to be spiritists or like others...
 
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Emre_1974tr said:
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The Quran clearly tells the truth.

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No it doesn't.

Holy Quran:

31:10 He created the heavens without pillars or supports; you see them. And He placed on the earth weights and supports so that it would not shake you and make you stagger, and He spread therein all kinds of animals. And We sent down water from the sky, and there We caused every kind of generous and fruitful pair to flourish.

I have lived through several earthquakes. I have been shaken.

Your Quran lies.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
Most of you are not. But there are some Christian missionaries among you and they are pretending. Some pretend to be atheists, some pretend to be spiritists or like others...
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Who do you think is a secret Christian?
 
Emre_1974tr said:
Most of you are not. But there are some Christian missionaries among you and they are pretending. Some pretend to be atheists, some pretend to be spiritists or like others...
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Don't be a liar Emre; Who is your false religion refering to in Sura: Chapter 19, Verse 19?

19) He said "Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son.
So here in your Quran is an Angel speaking to Mary about Jesus.

Where does it say in the Quran that Muhammed is holy?
 
Emre_1974tr, I don't think you will be able to do this, but I might be wrong.

Objectively, try to consider that maybe you are wrong. That the Quran is just something a man made up and otherwise non-remarkable.

What would change in your life if that was the case? Would that truth actually impact you?
Why is the existence of a god so important to you?
 
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