Clutch Cargo
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So far I don't run the country or the welcoming committee. Your paranoia has you in a firm grip.
Trump's US Threat to Greenland (which belongs to Denmark)
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Clutch Cargo
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How should I know? He is against American boots on the ground in Ukraine. Did he express that or didn't he? Now, if Greenland were to become a part of the US how do you think that wuld affect Greenlanders? Go ahead, take a guess.
Hercules56
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Would you support the use of military force to take control of Greenland?
Clutch Cargo
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Why are you asking me such a question?
Hercules56
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Do you have an answer? Do you have any opinion whatsoever on the matter?
This weekend Trump refused to rule out the use of military force to get control of Greenland... I would like to know your thoughts on that.
On X, MAGA morons continue to post the fotos from Nuuk of Don Jr. and Greenlanders wearing the MAGA caps he brought along for this purpose.
Meanwhile, in Nuuk, Greenland:
The characteristic red cap was on Julius Sandgren's head.
"Make America Great Again," it said, in big white letters. And Julius Sandgren was very pleased.
That was in early January, and he had just had dinner with Donald Trump's son, Donald Trump Jr.
(...)
But today he's singing a different tune. A completely different tune, in fact.
He has sold the cap and says no thanks to Trump.
- We are ◊◊◊◊◊◊. Goodbye to the Americans. We would rather have Danes.
But didn't you call Donald Trump Jr. A hero?
- We were wrong. It's because of the money. He wants to take over Greenland. You don't do that.
So you regret wearing on the red hat?
- Yes. I regret it. They don't treat people properly. Danes are the only ones who do. With medicine, welfare, conditions for pensioners. The Danes are the ones who introduced it.
I think there's a lesson or two in there for members of the MAGA cult in the USA.
This poor guy wasn't in the cult long enough for it to wreck his brain.
Meanwhile, in Nuuk, Greenland:
Wearing the MAGA hat, he called Trump's son a hero - now the tone is different: 'Stupid idiot' (DR.dk, Mar 26, 2025)
The characteristic red cap was on Julius Sandgren's head.
"Make America Great Again," it said, in big white letters. And Julius Sandgren was very pleased.
That was in early January, and he had just had dinner with Donald Trump's son, Donald Trump Jr.
(...)
But today he's singing a different tune. A completely different tune, in fact.
He has sold the cap and says no thanks to Trump.
- We are ◊◊◊◊◊◊. Goodbye to the Americans. We would rather have Danes.
But didn't you call Donald Trump Jr. A hero?
- We were wrong. It's because of the money. He wants to take over Greenland. You don't do that.
So you regret wearing on the red hat?
- Yes. I regret it. They don't treat people properly. Danes are the only ones who do. With medicine, welfare, conditions for pensioners. The Danes are the ones who introduced it.
I think there's a lesson or two in there for members of the MAGA cult in the USA.
This poor guy wasn't in the cult long enough for it to wreck his brain.
Clutch Cargo
Muse
Yes, I do.
I absolutey do have an opinion on the matter.
That's what has been reported, yes. Whether or not it was in context or not I have no idea.
Are my thoughts important to anyone other than to myself? I'll make you an honest agreement. If you tell me what you believe (or suspect) my thoughts on the matter are then I'll tell you if you are right or wrong. Man to man. OK?
You should take a look at the thread about Sweden's pandemic response, year one!
I only disagree with Vixen about one thing: Clutch Cargo's retreat usually isn't rapid enough. It tends to drag on and on and on.
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I think, I hope, you believe the use of force to get control of Greenland would be totally inappropriate and illegal.
Clutch Cargo
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Bingo.
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Here's an analysis of the global effects Trump (and Vance) is having with his stated attitude toward Denmark and Greenland.
www.theguardian.com
Vance’s posturing in Greenland was not just morally wrong. It was strategically disastrous | Timothy Snyder
Thanks to Trump’s administration, the US could soon have to fight wars to get things that, just a few weeks ago, were there for the asking, says professor Timothy Snyder of Yale University
www.theguardian.com
Hlafordlaes
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I'll take a guess... Oops, my interest died along the way. A moment's silence.
Interesting, but the author makes the mistake of taking the words of Trump and Vance at face value:Here's an analysis of the global effects Trump (and Vance) is having with his stated attitude toward Denmark and Greenland.
Vance’s posturing in Greenland was not just morally wrong. It was strategically disastrous | Timothy Snyder
Thanks to Trump’s administration, the US could soon have to fight wars to get things that, just a few weeks ago, were there for the asking, says professor Timothy Snyder of Yale University
"Thanks to Trump’s administration, the US could soon have to fight wars to get things that, just a few weeks ago, were there for the asking."
But what was there for the asking a few weeks ago is still there for the asking - both Greenland and Denmark keep repeating that it is. Mineral extraction, more U.S. military bases, observation posts. Whatever the USA wanted, it could have and can still have. Nothing's changed in that respect.* The only thing that's changed is that what was there for the asking a few weeks ago is no longer enough for Trump and Vance. They want more now than they wanted back then.
They claim that they need Greenland for national and international security, but that's not the point. They want to annex Greenland in order to be able to control the Arctic region. Greenland isn't threatened in the region by anybody other than Trump, and who is supposed to threaten the USA in the region? Putin is Trump's BFF, and Putin wants Trump to have Greenland. (And probably Canada, too.) China is on the other side of the Earth and doesn't threaten anything other than, hypothetically, the USA's access to minerals in Greenland - and the USA could get those by buying the right to extract those minerals if that was what they wanted.
And it's not a security issue. It's a question of being able to control the waterways, e.g. of being able to prevent China and Europe to use them, of being able to extort them much the same way that he is currently extorting universities, media companies and, most recently, law firms: Pay me, or else ... Think of the detour that the ships of other countries will have to take south of South America if Trump's USA can prevent them from using the Panama Canal and (potentially) the Arctic waters.
Think of the prices he'll be able to charge when he controls both the Panama Canal and the Arctic region, the latter with Putin as his partner in crime! Putin may even have been the one who came up with the idea in the first place.
It is not a question of being able to secure the use of it for American ships. They can do that already. Nobody prevents American ships from using the Panama Canal. What he wants is the power to be able to prevent others from using it. Much the same way that he is now able to use his power to extort American companies and institutions.
* Unfortunately! I wish Denmark and Greenland would stop being as subservient as they are. Kick the Americans out of both Greenland and Denmark already! It is as if the politicians in the Danish Realm just can't let go of the idea that the USA is still an ally, no matter how obvious Trump and Vance tell them that it's no longer the case.
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Vixen
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This sums it up in a nutshell. Trump doesn't have the brain power to have thought of it himself. Putin put the idea there - perhaps that time in Helsinki 2018, when Trump was completely alone with him without an aide or any chaperone, as is normal official protocol.
Kyle Kulinski makes a pretty good summary of what has happened so far. Notice the date: It's not an April 1st prank.
Trump DEAD SERIOUS About Invading Greenland (Secular Talk on YouTube, Mar 31, 2025 - 16:52 min.)
Kulinski mentions Peter Thiel, but I don't think his tech-bro dystopian idea has much to do with it.
ETA: For those of you who haven't heard Jesse Watter's take on this: 8:20-->
Trump DEAD SERIOUS About Invading Greenland (Secular Talk on YouTube, Mar 31, 2025 - 16:52 min.)
Kulinski mentions Peter Thiel, but I don't think his tech-bro dystopian idea has much to do with it.
ETA: For those of you who haven't heard Jesse Watter's take on this: 8:20-->
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This one's for you!Clutch Cargo
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So the reason you made this post is ....... why exactly? I think my opinion means much, much more to you than you are willing to admit.I'll take a guess... Oops, my interest died along the way. A moment's silence.
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