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Trump's US Threat to Greenland (which belongs to Denmark)

Yesterday:
Everything is on the table to obtain Greenland (NBC News, Mar 29, 2025)
The president on Saturday also said he has “absolutely” had real conversations about annexing Greenland, which is currently a semiautonomous Danish territory.
“We’ll get Greenland. Yeah, 100%,” Trump said.
He added that there’s a “good possibility that we could do it without military force” but that “I don’t take anything off the table.”

10 minutes ago:
USA får ikke Grønland, understreger nyvalgt regeringschef (TV2.dk, Mar 30, 2025)
Den nyvalgte grønlandske regeringschef, Jens-Frederik Nielsen, reagerer nu på USA-præsident Donald Trumps seneste udtalelser om, at USA "får Grønland".
- Lad mig sige det klart: Det får USA ikke. Vi tilhører ikke andre. Vi bestemmer selv vores fremtid, lyder det fra Jens-Frederik Nielsen på Facebook.
Han tilføjer, at Grønland ikke skal reagere med frygt, men med ro og værdighed.
- Det er gennem disse værdier, at vi klart, tydeligt og roligt skal vise den amerikanske præsident, at Grønland er vores. Sådan var det i går. Sådan er det i dag. Og sådan vil det også være fremover
The USA will not get Greenland, newly elected head of government emphasizes (TV2.dk, Mar 30, 2025)
The newly elected head of government of Greenland, Jens-Frederik Nielsen, is now responding to US President Donald Trump's latest statements that the US "will get Greenland".
- Let me be clear: The USD will not get Greenland. We do not belong to others. We determine our own future, says Jens-Frederik Nielsen on Facebook.
He adds that Greenland should not react with fear, but with calm and dignity.
- It is by way of these values that we must clearly, distinctly and calmly show the US president that Greenland is ours. That was the case yesterday. That is the case today. And that is the case in the future.
 
Svalbard can contribute 3000 people and 3000 polar bears. The population of Iceland can occupy the square in front of the Capitol doing the fearsome Viking clap.
I always thought the fearsome Viking clap was what coastal villagers came down with after they had been raped and pillaged.
 
They are scary, but much will depend on Pentagon's access to Subtle Knives!
(I admire the foresight of casting Luigi in the series two years before he became famous.)
 
During my formative years, I was influenced by a folk/protest singer named Phil Ochs. Too many moving and inspirational songs to list, but this one, about Marines landing in Santo Domingo, sprung to mind when others were listing the various U.S. incursions into foreign countries.


We lost Phil Ochs way too soon - we could have used his voice now.
As a bit of an aside to the topic of this thread, I and my wife to be saw Phil Ochs at The Riverboat in Toronto in 1966. Ah, I do miss the 60s.
 
Will Musk and his trillions be unleashed? He could offer each Greenlander a million dollars to sell up and they could all retire to Florida.

Apparently there's nothing illegal about this:
 
Will Musk and his trillions be unleashed? He could offer each Greenlander a million dollars to sell up and they could all retire to Florida.
Apparently there's nothing illegal about this:
They actually seem to be trying to bribe Greenlanders. I am not really surprised.

I was wondering what had happened to Jørgen Boassen after his employer, Tom Dans, American Daybreak, had gone back to Texas, but Boassen is still there.
Jørgen Boassen lægger ikke skjul på stoltheden over, at han har fået rigsfællesskabet til at vakle (Politiken.dk, Mar 30, 2025)
De grønlandske MAGA-tilhængere udgør efter al sandsynlighed et mindretal af befolkningen, men med presset fra USA vejrer bevægelsen morgenluft med uforudsigelige konsekvenser for rigsfællesskabet.
Temperaturen i herresaunaen i Svømmehallen Malik ligger omkring de 90 grader. Den brandvarme træbænk klæber til ryg og balder, mens svedperlerne pibler frem på huden. I heden sidder de nøgne mandekroppe tæt.
Saunaen er blevet et nærmest ikonisk samlingssted, der ofte bliver refereret til i Grønland, når talen falder på Trumps loyalister på verdens største ø. Her i den dunkle hede mødes Nuuks uafhængighedsivrige og USA-venlige mænd og diskuterer politik. Der bliver hvervet til sagen, og konspireret mod rigsfællesskabet.
Jørgen Boassen doesn't try to hide how proud he is of having made the unity of the Danish Realm reel
Greenland's MAGA supporters are probably a minority of the population, but with the pressure from the USA the movement is optimistic and it may have unpredictable consequences for the unity of the Realm.
The temperature in the men's sauna in the indoor swimming pool Malik is about 90o Centigrade. The burning hot wooden bench sticks to your back and buttocks while pearls of sweat are forming on your skin. In the heat, the naked men's bodies are close.
The saunas has become an almost iconic meeting point, referenced in conversations about Trump loyalists on the world's biggest island. Here in the dark heat, Nuuk's independence-eager and USA-friendly men meet to discuss politics. This is where they recruit for the cause and conspire against the unity of the Realm.

The three leaders of the conspiracy can be seen in a photo in this article: Efter USA-tur: Vil have ham ud! (EkstraBladet, Jan 30, 2025)
From the left: Tom Dans, Jørgen Boassen, Kuno Fencker. I don't know who the other two guys (one of them with a MAGA cap) are.
Kuno Fencker, a member of the party Siumut, was going against the party line - maybe because he got money or services from Tom Dans. After Kuno Fencker's trip to the USA, the party wanted him gone.

Grønlandsk politiker var til fest for hundredtusinder kroner på USA-tur (Berlingske.dk, Jan 30, 2025)
Kuno Fencker er blevet beskyldt for landsskadelig virksomhed for sin rejse til USA, som var imod partilinjen.
Medlem af det grønlandske parti--> parliament natsisartut Kuno Fencker tog på eget initiativ på en spontan solotur til USA i forbindelse med indsættelsen af Donald Trump som præsident.
Dermed gik han imod partilinjen og er siden blevet beskyldt for landsskadelig virksomhed.
Nu viser det sig, at den grønlandske politiker fra partiet Siumut modtog billetter til politiske arrangementer for hundredtusinder kroner, skriver Frihedsbrevet.
Invitationerne vidner om, at der fortsat er politisk interesse for Grønland i USA, siger Derek Beach, der er professor i amerikansk politik ved Aarhus Universitet.
- De er med til at skabe en virkelighed, hvor man skaber et billede om, at der er stærke stemmer i Grønland, der ønsker, at Grønland skal indgå i en meget stærkere alliance med USA. Selv om virkeligheden er modsat, siger han til Frihedsbrevet.
Kuno Fencker har afvist at tale med Frihedsbrevet og afbrød for nylig et interview med KNR, da mediet stillede kritiske spørgsmål.
Greenlandic politician attended a party worth hundreds of thousands of kroner during a trip to the USA (Berlingske.dk, Jan 30, 2025)
Kuno Fencker has been accused of activities harmful to the country because of his trip to the USA, which wasn't in line with the politics of his party.
The member of the Greenlandic party--> parliament Inatsisartut Kuno Fencker took a spontaneous solo trip to the USA on his own initiative in connection with Donald Trump's presidential inauguration.
In doing so, he went against the party line and has been accused of activities damaging to the country.
Now it turns out that the Greenlandic politician from the Siumut party received tickets to political events worth hundreds of thousands of kroner, writes Frihedsbrevet.
The invitations show the USA's continued political interest in Greenland, says Derek Beach, a professor of American politics at Aarhus University.
- They help create a reality where you paint a picture of strong voices in Greenland that want Greenland to enter into a much stronger alliance with the US. Even though the reality is the opposite, he tells Frihedsbrevet (media).
Kuno Fencker has refused to speak to Frihedsbrevet, and recently he interrupted an interview with KNR when the media asked critical questions.
 
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Will Musk and his trillions be unleashed? He could offer each Greenlander a million dollars to sell up and they could all retire to Florida.

Apparently there's nothing illegal about this:
Cool! He can give me ten million USD and I will promise to vote for whichever Wisconsin candidate he wants. Does it still count if I am Australian?
 
An expensive trip! All dressed up and nothing to do.
I hope that the police dogs at least got to meet some of the Greenlandic Huskies!
Greenland Hosts Epic Dog-Sled Race, But US Delegation Skips Event (WION, Mar 30, 2025 - 1:16 min.)
Greenland's thrilling dog-sled race is underway, featuring 37 mushers and 444 dogs racing across a 40-km-long route. However, the US delegation is notably absent from the event.
American networks don't seem have found the US-sponsored race thrilling enough to report from it after JD Vance canceled his wife's trip to Sisimiut.

I only just now discovered that there's a one-month-old Danish music video (AI-generated) mocking Trump's attempt to buy Greenland.
Plenty of polar bears and scantily-clad Eskimaidens:
Trump wants to buy Greenland, but Mette says no!
Trump vil købe Grønland | Officiel musikvideo 2025 | men Mette siger nej! (Kens Sorte Kanal on YouTube, Mar 1, 2025 - 2:42 min.)
Det er hårdt at være Trump, men man må give ham følgende: Han er en ældre herre, som ikke giver op så let, vedholdende, selv om han også fik "nej tak" til at købe Grønland for et par år siden, dvs. forrige gang, hvor han var præsident.
Grønland er et strategisk sted til at overvåge og kontrollere søfart. Der er særligt i 2025 fokus på kinesiske skibe, russiske skibe samt allierede med nævnte lande. USA har i forvejen én base placeret på Grønland.
Basen gik i mange år under navnet Thule Air Base eller Thulebasen, men har siden 2023 heddet Pituffik Space Base.
Det giver mening at USA kan sætte mere forsvar op på Grønland og det må Trump acceptere. Og måske ser vi en skønne dag alligevel et "Trump" hotel i Nuuk.
 

Trump's US Threat to Greenland​

A threat or a suggestion?
President Trump isn't backing down on his claim to want Greenland
It looks that way.
which the US is already using as a strategic military base.
True.
Danish PM Mette Frederiksen is getting quite worried.
She wants to send her boys to fight against Russia in Ukraine. Whatever my personal view on Greenland being shunted over to the US it could be a Godsend to Greenlanders as long as Trump is calling the shots.
I can't help thinking Trump and Putin have devised a secret Hitler-Stalin type pact to carve up the western world between them. .
You're letting your imagination run away with you.
 
President Elect Trump isn't backing down on his claim to want Greenland, which the US is already using as a strategic military base. Danish PM Mette Frederiksen is getting quite worried.
I can't help thinking Trump and Putin have devised a secret Hitler-Stalin type pact to carve up the western world between them. Put two mad men together...
Uncle Joe and Adolf left > 20m people dead between them in their imperialistic thirst for power. It doesn't augur well.

A I-let-you-keep-Ukraine-if-you-let-me-take-Greenland scenario is not unlikely, now that the former U.S. ally Europe has become Trump's archenemy:
Putin’s endorsement of Trump’s Greenland takeover reflects their vision of a new world order (The Guardian, Mar 28, 2025)
The US’s plans to take control of Greenland “may surprise someone only at first glance, and it is a deep mistake to believe that this is some kind of extravagant talk by the new American administration,” Putin began. “Nothing of the sort.”
(...)
“As for Greenland, this is an issue that concerns two specific states and has nothing to do with us,” Putin said, while adding that Russia would continue to defend its interests in the Arctic from “dangerous” powers such as Finland and Sweden.
No reason to be scared of Sweden, Vlady. Clutch Cargo will welcome you and Donald with open arms.
 
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A threat or a suggestion?

It looks that way.

True.

She wants to send her boys to fight against Russia in Ukraine. Whatever my personal view on Greenland being shunted over to the US it could be a Godsend to Greenlanders as long as Trump is calling the shots.

You're letting your imagination run away with you.
So when Trump says military action in order to get control of Greenland is not off the table, you think he's joking?
 
A threat or a suggestion?

It looks that way.

True.

She wants to send her boys to fight against Russia in Ukraine. Whatever my personal view on Greenland being shunted over to the US it could be a Godsend to Greenlanders as long as Trump is calling the shots.

You're letting your imagination run away with you.

Well, I think Trump believes this but wily old Putin with a few more grey brain cells than him probably laughs at Trump as loudly and as heartily as we do. Both Putin and Trump appear to be in ill-health, especially Trump, with his dragging leg, needing to stand with the balls of his feet on a mat to prevent him rocking forward, and IV scars on the backs of his hands, so let's hope nature does its work on both of them sooner rather than later.

So yeah, whilst both Hitler and Stalin were very intelligent men, we don't get the same vibes from Trump & Putin. Trump, like Musk, is a rich man's son whose expensive education was bought for him. Neither has any real intellect, they simply invested lots of money in the right stocks and even then, Trump couldn't fend off going bankrupt six times. Unlike Hitler and Stalin both are relative low-normal IQ. Trump is a hot air merchant. Thrives on the adrenaline of being front page news and macho aggression not dissimilar to a mob gangster. Putin is a lot more dangerous and is likely double-bluffing the orange buffoon for his own ends. But Putin is just a standard ex-KGB officer; a little bit intellectual but not much; more of a middle manager-type, like JD Vance. The real brains in Putin's cabinet is Lavrov. This guy looks like a big soppy bloodhound but he has more brains than Putin, Trump and Musk combined. A very clever man.

But there is an agenda behind the campaign to get Trump re-elected and like Brexit, I fear it is a Russian-backed agenda. These guys have been playing he dark arts for years. Now they have got their useful idiot into the White House we can see all kinds of machinations playing out and Putin as the acolyte of Lavrov is putting into place the Russian master plan, which has ever since the Bolshevik Uprising, been to destablise the west. This is by means of propaganda, misinformation, encouraging dissent, undermining democratic processes and by infiltration of sovereign nations by deception, bribery and election rigging. Trump is a fool if he thinks all he has to do is get Fredriksen or Zelensky for Ukraine, to just 'shake hands and it's a deal'.


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She wants to send her boys to fight against Russia in Ukraine.
What is your evidence for this?

Clutch Cargo doesn't need evidence.
Are you saying the fact that she said it is not evidence that she means it? Is that your game?
Some of us remember how he fabricated 'evidence' for Sweden's eradication of COVID-19
I am sure I never said that. Spin - spin - spin all you like. :cheerleader1
 

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