Trump's Second Term

ponderingturtle said:
But republicans clearly don't care or they would not have picked Trump as their leader. Trying to pretend that this will be the straw that breaks the camels back is just ludicrous.

So why should I believe that there is any serious strand of republicanism that cares about national security when the party sent a clear message that Trump is more important than american security?
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Because blanket statements like that are just prevaricated fabrications. Not ALL republicans are behind him but believe what you want. I'm all for free speech, unlike the fat clown and his maga weirdoes.

Even though I'm still a registered republican, when I first started voting, I voted for Carter, but then I voted for Reagan. Biggest mistake I ever made in my life, especially after I did research on "trickle-down economics" and found out what a load of BS it is.

Ever since then, I've very rarely voted for a republican because most of them are mean spirited, vindictive, hypocritical, liars.

The only reason I favor dems now is because (like me) they tend to care for people, especially children.

The reason I haven't changed parties is for a personal reason that's none of anyone's business.


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AmyStrange said:
Because blanket statements like that are just prevaricated fabrications. Not ALL republicans are behind him but believe what you want. I'm all for free speech, unlike the fat clown and his maga weirdoes.
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No they are talking about the republican party. As a political party their position is clear. You are using your rather strange emotional ties to pretend to matter when you don't.

You and people like you are truly irrelevant.

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Even though I'm still a registered republican, when I first started voting, I voted for Carter, but then I voted for Reagan. Biggest mistake I ever made in my life, especially after I did research on "trickle-down economics" and found out what a load of BS it is.

Ever since then, I've very rarely voted for a republican because most of them are mean spirited, vindictive, hypocritical, liars.

The only reason I favor dems now is because (like me) they tend to care for people, especially children.

The reason I haven't changed parties is for a personal reason that's none of anyone's business.


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Tying your identity to fictitious beliefs about a political party is strange.
 
ponderingturtle said:
No they are talking about the republican party. As a political party their position is clear. You are using your rather strange emotional ties to pretend to matter when you don't.

You and people like you are truly irrelevant.


Tying your identity to fictitious beliefs about a political party is strange.
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So, I guess voting for dems is irrelevant. Got it.


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Fast Eddie B said:
And yet they seem to vote in a block to support even the most questionable bills and nominations.
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He is just saying that because identifying as a republican is important to him, while he holds nothing but contempt for everything that republicans do.

I still have not gotten an answer as to why anyone would take this leak as a serious problem but give Trump a pass on his handling of classified documents.
 
AmyStrange said:
So, I guess voting for dems is irrelevant. Got it.


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Now you are claiming most republicans vote for dems?

Your innitial claim was that republicans would care about the leak for some mysterious reason. Well be clear what is the reason republican like you gave trump a pass on his handling of classified documents but this is a bridge too far?

Or is this some thing that we can not talk about what political parties believe in any real sense and it is all meaningless to try to assign actions and beliefs to organizations?
 
ponderingturtle said:
Now you are claiming most republicans vote for dems?

Your innitial claim was that republicans would care about the leak for some mysterious reason. Well be clear what is the reason republican like you gave trump a pass on his handling of classified documents but this is a bridge too far?

Or is this some thing that we can not talk about what political parties believe in any real sense and it is all meaningless to try to assign actions and beliefs to organizations?
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Nope, I never claimed that.

Obviously, you haven't read any of my comments.

Like a smart person here once posted, "Party is less important than voting record," but I'm sure you'll twist that to your own advantage.

Good luck with that.


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AmyStrange said:
Nope, I never claimed that.
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You claimed to represent a sizable group, that would be the clear indication that such a group exists. Otherwise you would be like someone claiming that because there are black people who dress up in confederate uniforms that the confederacy was not based around slavery and the supremacy of the white race despite primary sources(cornerstone speech, letters of succession) that that was exactly what the confederacy was based on.

So who should I believe in that instance the one lone nutter or the primary sources?
 
ponderingturtle said:
He is just saying that because identifying as a republican is important to him, while he holds nothing but contempt for everything that republicans do.

I still have not gotten an answer as to why anyone would take this leak as a serious problem but give Trump a pass on his handling of classified documents
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I don't know why anyone would give him a pass, except like I said, most of my fellow stupid republicans are mean spirited, vindictive, hypocritical, liars.

All I know is that I NEVER gave him a pass. Prove that I ever did.


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AmyStrange said:
I don't know why anyone would give him a pass, except like I said, most of my fellow stupid republicans are mean spirited, vindictive, hypocritical, liars.

All I know is that I NEVER gave him a pass. Prove that I ever did.


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This just shows how irrelevant your views are too any discussion of republican ideology.
 
ponderingturtle said:
You claimed to represent a sizable group, that would be the clear indication that such a group exists. Otherwise you would be like someone claiming that because there are black people who dress up in confederate uniforms that the confederacy was not based around slavery and the supremacy of the white race despite primary sources(cornerstone speech, letters of succession) that that was exactly what the confederacy was based on.

So who should I believe in that instance the one lone nutter or the primary sources?
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Being part of a group doesn't mean I represent ALL of the group.

After all, I'm a part of a sizeable group called humans, but that doesn't mean I represent or believe everything the stupid ones believe.

Obviously, I'm not the nutter here.


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AmyStrange said:
Being part of a group doesn't mean I represent ALL of the group.
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But the claim was that there was a meaningful number of republicans who care about national security that would be bothered by the recent leaks of war plans but apparently not bothered by his handling of secret documents. The only thing we can say is that republicans were not bothered in any serious fashion by Trumps handling of secret documents.
 
ponderingturtle said:
But the claim was that there was a meaningful number of republicans who care about national security that would be bothered by the recent leaks of war plans but apparently not bothered by his handling of secret documents. The only thing we can say is that republicans were not bothered in any serious fashion by Trumps handling of secret documents.
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In my opinion (which you'll probably ignore), most (if not all) of the republicans in congress are willfully stupid and ignorant, but that doesn't automatically make me the same as them.


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ponderingturtle said:
But the claim was that there was a meaningful number of republicans who care about national security that would be bothered by the recent leaks of war plans but apparently not bothered by his handling of secret documents. The only thing we can say is that republicans were not bothered in any serious fashion by Trumps handling of secret documents.
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Once again, when did I (personally) give the fat clown and his maga weirdoes a pass on anything?


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ponderingturtle said:
But the claim was that there was a meaningful number of republicans who care about national security that would be bothered by the recent leaks of war plans but apparently not bothered by his handling of secret documents. The only thing we can say is that republicans were not bothered in any serious fashion by Trumps handling of secret documents.
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We? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

Because only a very small percentage of folks here believe that I'm a nutter.

I ignore all the other willfully stupid and ignorant idiots that I like to call the maga weirdoes.


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The only two things that I've ever posted that might be considered a pass is when I agreed with musk's opinion about Pnut the squirrel, but that's because I love ALL animals. Everything else that I've ever read or heard that nutjob say is just plain rubbish.

The other thing is that I think his pick to head the Secret Service (Sean Curran) was reasonable, although only time will tell for sure, but I also think he should've picked the woman (who in all the pictures and videos I've seen actually threw herself in front of the fat clown during the first assassination attempt) instead, but she might've been passed up because of her gender.

Some of the maga weirdoes in the forums I mentioned earlier claimed that because she fumbled getting her gun back in her holster proves she wasn't suitable, but I'll bet just about every gun aficionado will agree with me that pulling your gun out fast and the accuracy in which you shoot is more important than how fast you holster it.


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alfaniner said:
I'm absolutely sure he's going to back out of the tariffs, with some lame excuse and twist that they caved because of him (even if they don't) so he doesn't have to do it. Then profit on the stock market bounce.
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But it won't help the economy, everyone knows Trump might impose tariffs today, reverse them tomorrow, and reimpose them the day after depending on whether some foreign leader said nice or mean things about him. The uncertainty is just as damaging.
 
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