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Trump's Second Term

carlosy said:
I don't see a realistic path forward. Unless there is come sort of revolutionary thing going on.
Making fun of Trump and his idiots and trying to keep up with every next 'oh ◊◊◊◊, look what he is doing now' news isn't going to help.

MAGA is in power for four years, at least. And this is just the start. Who is going to stop them with what or how?
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Starve them. I mean literally starve them.
 
Aridas said:
To be clear, privatizing the government has indeed long been the dream... of certain obscenely rich people who have been working to sabotage the country for a long time now. The kind of people who hate the middle class because they're not so easily controlled by them.
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So you agree with Marx that the Middle CLass is just a temporary doomed phenemenon?
 
carlosy said:
I don't see a realistic path forward. Unless there is come sort of revolutionary thing going on.
Making fun of Trump and his idiots and trying to keep up with every next 'oh ◊◊◊◊, look what he is doing now' news isn't going to help.

MAGA is in power for four years, at least. And this is just the start. Who is going to stop them with what or how?
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Perhaps a green Mario will arise. Conditions for that seem to be accelerating by the hour.
 
Norman Alexander said:
No, it's their dream because they want to be in charge of it so they can make even more obscene profits.
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To poke at a really blatant similar example of this issue coming up in Trump's last term - the Republican approach to infrastructure issues. The Republican's big proposal was to sell off public infrastructure to private interests en masse. It got far closer to happening then than any sane person or patriot should hope for and was just one of many examples of Republicans working to betray the US in mundane ways.

For a little historical context, though -
The founding premise of the modern conservative movement tracks back a generation before Stormer’s book to a Republican thought leader named Russell Kirk. He laid it out in his 1951 book The Conservative Mind: From Burke to Eliot, as I detail in The Hidden History of American Oligarchy.

Kirk argued that the middle class was becoming a threat to America; without clearly defined classes and power structures — essentially without the morbidly rich in complete control of everything — he worried that society would devolve into chaos.
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There's more, of course, but I feel no need to push things further at the moment.

dudalb said:
So you agree with Marx that the Middle CLass is just a temporary doomed phenemenon?
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Not really. The position that the modern conservative movement is working to destroy the middle class is not a hard position to support. The position that the middle class is a temporary doomed phenomenon is categorically different, though I suppose in the sense that humanity is a temporary doomed phenomenon it could also be easily supportable.
 
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The MAGA Republicans are not worried about the middle class. Give it all to Musk to manipulate. The lower class are just good for Wal Mart and Amazon staff.
 
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Well, if the whole ideaof getting rid of DEI was to relieve racial tensions as Trump said, It is sure as hell not workingl
 
johnny karate said:
Probably worth mentioning on at least every page of this thread: The actions the Trump administration are taking are indistinguishable from authoritarianism.
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Agreed. I just finished watching a documentary on how German propaganda in the 1930's-early 1940's convinced the German people to support Hitler. I see the similar crap coming from the new administration right now. It's scary.
 
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Get ready to pay more.
 
Except the Nazi Propaganda was much better done.......

And Stalin pretty much used the same tactics in Russia.
 
Somehow....the revolution is not working. If they had the election, won everything and it should have been easy. Fire all the people, sell all the bridges Biden built etc. But Trump is not quite the dictator they wanted. Maybe he has actual feelings for all those people at his rallies? The only people that love him.
 
TellyKNeasuss said:
There were plenty of people who worked in the first Trump administration who said that Trump would be far worse if he got back into office. Trump is behaving the way he was expected to. No Trump voter can claim that they did not vote for this. Trump voters own everything that's happening.
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Agreed. Trump's press secretary, Karoline Leavitt:

'I think one of the things that the American people love most about this president is that he often says what they are thinking, but sometimes lack the courage to say themselves,' she said."

Sad, but true. And that's what scares me. He spews all the hatred, racism, bigotry, stupidity, ignorance, and fear mongering they lacked the courage to say themselves.
 
On Thursday Kash Patel said, "Every FBI employee will be held to the absolute same standard, and no one will be terminated for cases," Patel said. "All FBI employees will be protected against political retribution." Yet NBC News reported, "Trump administration officials have forced out all six of the FBI’s most senior executives and multiple heads of FBI field offices across the country, current and former FBI officials told NBC News. They included the high-profile leader of the Washington, D.C., field office, which was involved in the prosecutions of President Donald Trump. The Justice Department also fired multiple federal prosecutors who conducted the criminal investigation of Jan. 6 rioters, sources said. A congressional aide said the number of prosecutors impacted is roughly two dozen."
 
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Chris_Halkides said:
On Thursday Kash Patel said, "Every FBI employee will be held to the absolute same standard, and no one will be terminated for cases," Patel said. "All FBI employees will be protected against political retribution." Yet NBC News reported, "Trump administration officials have forced out all six of the FBI’s most senior executives and multiple heads of FBI field offices across the country, current and former FBI officials told NBC News. They included the high-profile leader of the Washington, D.C., field office, which was involved in the prosecutions of President Donald Trump. The Justice Department also fired multiple federal prosecutors who conducted the criminal investigation of Jan. 6 rioters, sources said. A congressional aide said the number of prosecutors impacted is roughly two dozen."
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Patel should be realising by now he is just one of the Trump Cartel's useful idiots, a bookmark, a chair-warmer. He clearly has no say in how his own department is run. He will be entirely expendable whenever Muskrat says he is.
 
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