HansMustermann
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Not to mention the Ferengi. I mean, even the women wearing stuff is bad, because it only invites men to undress them in their mind
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Not to mention the Ferengi. I mean, even the women wearing stuff is bad, because it only invites men to undress them in their mind
Certainly not a claim I made.
Colt Gray was involved with a discord account which referenced trans acceptance. It seems difficult from the syntax to determine if he saw this as good or bad, the fact that he referenced trans in conjunction with a mass shooting, past or future, is the issue.
There was no such thing as trans in schools when any member of this forum went through school.
Trans in schools has been manufactured by a combination of stupidity and malice. The malice is from Richard/Rachel Levine and others, to authenticate their own deviance.
Calling me a disgusting bigot alters none of the facts above, but I will be pleased to study evidence to the contrary.
Thermal
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We keep hearing that Gray posted something about trans acceptance, but I can't find exactly what he posted. Anyone else know?
HansMustermann
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Actually, yes you did.
Then just flippin' say say that you don't know, if you don't. Don't just blame the trans aspect for being the cause, when different interpretations can turn that on its head.
But, my dear logic-impaired intellectual-proletar, it's not the SAME issue. It's just like pretending that if some guy goes mass-shooter, and he mentioned race, it doesn't matter if he's FOR or AGAINST black rights, or even if he was (or even identified as) black anyway, it's the blacks rights to blame for it anyway. It's literally that retarded. (With apologies to retarded people for comparing them to your posts.)
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CNN posted it. I will find it later.
We would not be having this discussion had he not posted about trans acceptance and mass shootings on his discord account.
The FBI acknowledged the material but defaulted to ignoring it due to lack of validation.
You might ignore it too, but trans in schools is a very big and very new thing.
It is causing nothing, but extreme damage to all involved.
I didn't expect the pile on by just reporting facts as they lay before me.
HansMustermann
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Yes, and? It makes an actual difference his rage was FOR some kind of trans acceptance or AGAINST it. You can't just blame trans acceptance in both cases, without even knowing which it is.
You obviously also didn't expect to have to make any sense. Or to be expected to have the mental capacity to understand the difference between "facts" and what you wish they were
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Is it your position that I was wrong to cite the trans issue where you have a mass school shooting, and that the trans issue was raised by the shooter?Yes, and? It makes an actual difference his rage was FOR some kind of trans acceptance or AGAINST it. You can't just blame trans acceptance in both cases, without even knowing which it is.
You obviously also didn't expect to have to make any sense. Or to be expected to have the mental capacity to understand the difference between "facts" and what you wish they were
A reminder, trans is an extremely hot issue inflaming passions across the political spectrum.
Trump is now hammering it at every meeting.
From Erin In The Morning just now:
"On Saturday afternoon, Donald Trump held a rally in Mosinee, Wisconsin, where he repeated a claim he first made at an event hosted by the anti-trans school board group Moms for Liberty: that youth were being given sex-change operations at school and sent home as a different gender. This claim is entirely false—schools do not have the resources, doctors, or legal authority to provide medical gender-affirming care, much less surgeries. When asked about the claim, Moms For Liberty founder Tiffany Justice acknowledged that it was a lie, but said she was thankful to Trump for spreading it.
Trump, at the rally, spoke on transgender issues, claiming that “Kamala supports states being able to take minor children and perform sex change operations, take them away from their parents, perform sex change operations, and send them back home… Can you imagine you’re a parent and your son leaves the house and you say, ‘Jimmy, I love you so much. Go have a good day in school’ and your son comes back with a brutal operation? Can you even imagine this? What the hell is wrong with our country?”
And so on.
Now Erin, who is actually male, is a radical trans activist and correct in stating Trump in part is lying. But to suggest it is a pure conspiracy theory to link the trans controversy to this school shooting may be wishful thinking.
angrysoba
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You absolutely are a disgusting bigot.
In some way that even you are unable to articulate, you are effectively justifying school shootings and murder because of your antipathy towards trans people.
You people are always screaming about how children are being "ideologically captured by trans ideology" yet here you are whitewashing actual murder of children.
Your rhetoric is commonplace in the main stream media, where there is a blackout on discussion of anything that might light a way forward.
Fortunately you can have your say here with no fear of being challenged.
Admiral Levine is now on record for
1. Supporting the use of Lupron on children with no lower age limit, when he knows it is a chemical castration drug, used on adult sex offenders.
2. Saying he is glad he never took it as his 4 children mean everything to him.
My position is a medical one, it should be totally banned for all but precocious puberty and adult sex offenders.
The corollary will be that transing children is put back in the box, and we revert to a position from 30 years back, and there is no discussion in schools. Period.
To draw from any of this that my views, which are held by the majority in most western countries, are somehow responsible for the present tragedy, is seriously into shooting the messenger territory.
Having said all this, the FBI seems determined to keep some dominos out of the sequence, so Colt Gray may have never been interested in the trans issue, and this thread is correctly positioned as a conspiracy theory.
Time will surely tell.
angrysoba
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No. YOU are the one claiming that your hobby horse was responsible for this.
I found this, but it is difficult to interpret, from WP
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/09/06/discord-georgia-school-shooting-suspect-fbi/
"An anonymous tipster sent screenshots of the messages to the FBI, who forwarded them to the Jackson County Sherriff’s Office, the records show.
Officers traced an email address associated with the Discord account to Colt Gray, the records show. But when they questioned Colt and his father Colin Gray in May 2023, Colin Gray said that neither he nor his son was familiar with the email address. Colt Gray also said that he had deleted his Discord account months earlier partly because people had hacked into his account."
The anti trans material is extreme if you read the article.
Paywalled but many pay their dues to WP, I bought a year accidentally.
The CNN article was consistent in saying the account posted
"I am frustrated by trans acceptance".
Because Gray was harassed for being gay, I lean towards this account being hacked.
I expect it will all be unpacked in the investigation.
However it pans out, the trans cult in schools should be closed down. That is a mainstream view, it is not anti trans, it is anti profound child abuse by countless adults in countless organisations and institutions.
Bubba?
No one wades into the cult of trans expecting to make friends or influence people.
This quiet backwater is a safe place for hateful bigots like me, though I guess that friend of Winstone's from 1984 was unpleasantly surprised.
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Thermal
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Thanks. The WP article quotes the post:
Gonna go ahead and call that more than "expressing frustration" and move boldly onto calling it a terroristic threat.
Agreed.
But the account might have been hacked, which is more or less the point of this happy little thread.
Thermal
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I dunno. The only evidence of it being hacked is... the kid who was being questioned by the FBI about it's criminal content said it totes was?
ETA: that he went on to do exactly what the other "hacked" post threatened (school shooting), im gonna go back out on that limb and say this was Colts own words.
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Yes indeed that lies between possible and probable.
I wonder what others think?
Either way there remains the proposition in my mind that trans in schools is extremely dangerous to the community, and in ways far outside of this shooting.
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Craig4
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The moral cowardice required to write this is both astounding and despicable. This is a gun issue, pure and simple. You just want to distract from that obvious fact. I wonder why.