Split Thread Trans ideology causes school shootings

True, but then if we don't do it, who will? It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it :p
 
Is there more to this "ideology" beyond proclaiming the existence of trans people?
If not it's not really an ideology, is it.
 
Popped up on my facebook feed just now and seemed applicable:

Things that didn't kill anyone this week:

- drag queens
- pronouns
- books"
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Is there more to this "ideology" beyond proclaiming the existence of trans people?
If not it's not really an ideology, is it.
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Well, I was once accused by a Daily Mail columnist of being part of some class of trans-gender industry (not directly, but I was a regular referer to the Tavistock when it was still sensible, before Polly seems to have lost the plot, during the time the columnist was writing about), so...

I'm positive Samson will be able to enlighten us with one of his perspicaceous haiku/koan/limericks. Yeah, definitely that.
 
Samson said:
There is no right wing.
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Maybe you're just too close to it to see it.

There is a vast group of ignorant American women and citizens who are fighting tooth and nail to eliminate push misinformation about sex options in American schools.
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FTFY

This offender posted that he was frustrated by the non acceptance of trans youth.
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No, he was frustrated by their acceptance.

"The account owner also reportedly "expressed frustration that transgender people were being accepted in society,"

Try getting your facts straight.


At the same time on the same forum he said he would kill people in a school. It was 12 months back
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He said,

“im committing a mass shooting and im waiting a good 2-3 years,” the account user wrote in one post, according to the outlet. “I cant kill myself yet, cause I’m not contributing anything to culture I need to go out knowing I did.”

A separate post by the account included an image of two firearms. The account user added the caption “I’m ready.”
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He focused his hate on transgender people, but he was obviously a disturbed kid resulting from his abusive and dysfunctional family.

Gray's mother, Marcee (43), has a history of drug and domestic violence arrests. Her rap sheet includes charges for domestic violence, drug possession, property damage, and driving under the influence.

Neighbours described a tumultuous home life for the Gray family. Lauren Vickers, who lived next-door, told the New York Post there were frequent arguments and disputes, with the mother sometimes locking her children out of the house.
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"It was constant abuse," she said. "It’s very, very sad."

Gray’s maternal grandfather told CNN that he was "just a good kid" who "lived in an environment that was hostile."

"His dad beat up on him, I mean, I’m not talking about physical, but screaming and hollering, and he did the same thing to my daughter," Charles Polhamus said, adding that the boy did not show any outward anger issues but was affected by his upbringing.

Gray's aunt, Annie Brown, said that her nephew had been struggling with mental health issues and had been "begging for help" in the months leading up to the shooting.
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You ignore the fact that Gray was a disturbed adolescent not because of transgender issues being discussed in schools, but because he was transferring his anger onto "others". It's what all bigots do.
 
kookbreaker said:
Originally Posted by Samson
Everyone on this forum knows
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I know no such thing.
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Samson is using the classic and unconfirmed by evidence "everyone knows" to support what he believes just like Trump does:

"Everybody knows I won,”
“I know it, you know it, everybody knows it."
"I did nothing wrong, and everybody knows it."
"Biden is not all there, and everybody knows it."
 
Stacyhs said:
Samson is using the classic and unconfirmed by evidence "everyone knows" to support what he believes just like Trump does:

"Everybody knows I won,”
“I know it, you know it, everybody knows it."
"I did nothing wrong, and everybody knows it."
"Biden is not all there, and everybody knows it."
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Its invariably used by those whose position is unsupportable and pathetic. Samson is weird to have tried using this bit.
 
Samson said:
I have no interest in conspiracy theories.
It seems obvious that this kid posted on a forum that trans kids were badly treated.
If this is so, let's look at Sex Matters, Reduxx, SEGM, Genspect, and other sites.
None of them are sinister, just concerned for women and children.
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And yet you're spreading one. This is on par with and the intellectual equivalent of saying the moon landings were fake.
 
I hope some will forgive me for hastily posting here before wading through it all, but I have to remark that, first of all, there have been mass murders, if not in schools as often, but some there too, before trans gender issues came to the fore.

And second, apart from what some would consider the irrelevant issue of how much choice is involved, and maybe even with it, how does the initial premise of this thread differ from pointing out that being black in the wrong place causes lynching?
 
Samson said:




This shooting is a corollary to the cult of trans introduced into schools.
I hope I am wrong as it portends a far wider problem.

Eta
In a post on the Internet "he expressed frustration with the acceptance of trans people."

Minute about 9 30 to minute 14 gives detail, CNN and Andy Ngo

https://www.youtube.com/live/tkGTkJUqLk0?si=n8gKp92BJE6s7Q4_
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Even if I thought there was the slightest merit to this excruciatingly stupid argument, why would I conclude anything other than that transphobic bigots are the problem? If some guy was arrested and charged after a series of brutal rapes, and it turned out he was a misogynist who was infuriated that his manager at work was a woman, how stupid would I have to be to say, "See? Women working outside the home is bad!"?
 
Are there middle or high schools anywhere in the world that aren't full of sexually confused, depressed, angry, bullied and frustrated young people? Yet, all those schools with students with the same issues don't have shootings. I wonder what the difference is.
 
Memes going round Twitter at the moment claiming t0 show that all the mass school shootings for the last 4 years have been done by trans kids who all support the democrats.

It's not difficult to see where Samson gets his **** from
 
Grandfather of shooter thinks son-in-law should face the death penalty

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ool-shooting-grandfather-father-b2609199.html

‘Evil’ father of Georgia school shooting suspect should get death penalty says teenager’s granddad


"Spending 11 years with that son of a b**** screaming and hollering every day — it can affect anybody,” he told the New York Post. "He's evil."

“Colt has to pay for what he did, but I’m telling you, he was driven, no question in my mind,” Polhamus told the outlet. “He was driven by his father to do what he did. That’s as plain as I can put it, and I know I’m right."

Polhamus insists his grandson was a "good kid" before he spent his formative years with a "dysfunctional dad who was a screamer and a hollerer."​


This is a duplicate of a post I just made in the original thread. I wanted to make a point....

There is no mention of the boy being trans in that article. Its all about an abusive father!
 
Craig4 said:
Are there middle or high schools anywhere in the world that aren't full of sexually confused, depressed, angry, bullied and frustrated young people? Yet, all those schools with students with the same issues don't have shootings. I wonder what the difference is.
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Well, a difference is, of course, access to guns. BUT IMHO a difference is also that a lot of those countries also don't have teachers who are terrorized by both students and political activists, and who'll just allow any bullying to continue unchecked. They may not be successful at completely stamping it out, but it's SOME degree of control.

E.g., in this guy's story, at one point he wanted to join the IIRC tennis club, the kids told him that he's gay, and dating another guy, and they don't want gays in their club. In quite a few countries, the coach would have told them that that's not nice. In his case it meant, no, he can't join.

The ONLY time he school took any action at all in this debacle was to send the FBI when the bullied guy posted somewhere that he wants to shoot up the school. Which, don't get me wrong, it's right to notify the FBI in that situation. But I think there should have been a few more actions BEFORE it escalated to that point.

And don't get me wrong, I don't mean that the coach deserved to be shot to death. He didn't.
 
I'm not sure which thread this best suited to. I'm putting it here, but if the mods feel it would fit better elsewhere, then feel free to move it (not that you need my permission :)).

"Honesty Box" interview with vaginoplasty surgeon Dr. James Bellringer.

IMO well worth a watch, no matter where you currently stand on these issues.


ETA: This almost certainly the wrong thread: I hit the wrong link.
 
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Andy_Ross said:
Memes going round Twitter at the moment claiming t0 show that all the mass school shootings for the last 4 years have been done by trans kids who all support the democrats.

It's not difficult to see where Samson gets his **** from
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He's admitted getting all his information for TwiX.

Foster Zygote said:
Even if I thought there was the slightest merit to this excruciatingly stupid argument, why would I conclude anything other than that transphobic bigots are the problem? If some guy was arrested and charged after a series of brutal rapes, and it turned out he was a misogynist who was infuriated that his manager at work was a woman, how stupid would I have to be to say, "See? Women working outside the home is bad!"?
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Which is a view of some, including many Mushies.
 
Transes, I knew it was them! Even when it was the bears, I knew it was them!
 
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