Mojo
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Nah,it was Queen. Any car related CD becomes Queen's Greatest Hits.
That's cassettes, surely?
Nah,it was Queen. Any car related CD becomes Queen's Greatest Hits.
Citation, please of where it said they could cause a fire.
Twaddle.My bad, I should have realised earlier that the 'latest announcements' and revelations were nothing of the sort; simply hack, Phil Page, presenting old news as new. The British press is very different from the US press and other parts of the world. For example, the etiquette in the UK when there is an official investigation, be it a trial, a public inquiry or an investigation into a fire, such as this one, the press do not as a matter of protocol ask questions until the report is out. It's rare for things to leak as the national press has legal advisers to block unofficial stuff or things that might cause legal problems, such as stating something that later needs to be retracted as inaccurate. That is the protocol, so there is not much point in discussing this case until the report is published. September, according to the BBC. So yes, an embargo for sure as we have been told the make of such vehicles in the past but also just de rigueur to wait for the report.
Disagree. This is just based on the initial press release and we have had nothing since then.
Nope, the story you quoted said that the statement was made "at the time of the blaze". It wasn't presented as "the 'latest announcements' and revelations", it was included as background in a story about the impact on a wheelchair user of losing his car in the fire.
That's cassettes, surely?
It could be a hoax, who knows? The problem with X-Twitter is that there are people who think it amusing to start a rumour...
See above.
It's a pity you haven't been able to take more recent information into account, such as, for example, this press release dated 21st March 2024.
In "The Case of the Missing CD Plates" it was Bluebottle.
Citation, please of where it said they could cause a fire.
The latest news is that the fire was due to 'a lack of sprinklers' and this will be rectified in future.
As I recall there was much jubilation when it was reiterated that it was not believed to be an MEV, PHEV or full-EV.
Everything in that press release - which is simply a clarification of the first one - was already reported in all of the papers. It said on day one that the guy drove a vehicle that was already on fire into the car park.
I don't feel inclined to regard your recollection as reliable, given that you have forgotten that the post you were replying to was about your claim that the stuff about the lack of sprinklers was "latest news", and you trying to blame journalists for your failure to understand the phrase, "at the time of the blaze".
You mean like starting a rumour about a fire starting in an EV, based on nothing more that a couple of comments left on a story on the the Daily Mail website?
Oh, sorry, that wasn't on Twitter, was it?
That obviously should read as I state elsewhere the lack of sprinklers had an impact on the fire. This again is not a new statement. Hopkinson said all this on 11 Oct 2023.
The latest news is that the fire was due to 'a lack of sprinklers' and this will be rectified in future.
My bad, I should have realised earlier that the 'latest announcements' and revelations were nothing of the sort; simply hack, Phil Page, presenting old news as new.
You seem not to understand the maths and physics. Steel is a mixture of iron and carbon that can melt at between 1,371-1,540°C. The melting point of steel can vary because of the different elements it contains, which can cause melting point depression. Diesel burns at a recorded maximum temperature of 1,150 °C under controlled conditions. This is insufficient even to buckle steel used in construction. However, a lithium-ion car battery burns much more fiercely. The burning lithium creates a metallic fire existing at temperatures of 2,000 °C. As you know, the steel rebars buckling caused the concrete floor/s to collapse and it is likely that the concrete itself didn't just spall, as in the Liverpool fire, but actually melted, although we shall have to see what the report says.
Gee, you mean they're still saying it was a diesel car? What are we to make of the fact that they're still saying that? I mean they started out saying it was probably a diesel, and later said that it was definitely a diesel. Why can't they be more consistent? Inquiring minds want to know.
Gee, you mean they're still saying it was a diesel car? What are we to make of the fact that they're still saying that? I mean they started out saying it was probably a diesel, and later said that it was definitely a diesel. Why can't they be more consistent? Inquiring minds want to know.
You seem not to understand the maths and physics. Steel is a mixture of iron and carbon that can melt at between 1,371-1,540°C. The melting point of steel can vary because of the different elements it contains, which can cause melting point depression. Diesel burns at a recorded maximum temperature of 1,150 °C under controlled conditions. This is insufficient even to buckle steel used in construction. However, a lithium-ion car battery burns much more fiercely. The burning lithium creates a metallic fire existing at temperatures of 2,000 °C. As you know, the steel rebars buckling caused the concrete floor/s to collapse and it is likely that the concrete itself didn't just spall, as in the Liverpool fire, but actually melted, although we shall have to see what the report says.