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Cont: Today's Mass Shooting (part 3)

Looking at US states ranked by homicide rate, it occurs to me that a state's culture and political history might be correlated with its homicide rate.

2021 Ranking / State / homicides per 100,000

50 Mississippi (23.7)
49 Louisiana (21.3)
48 Alabama (15.9)
46 South Carolina (13.4)
45 Missouri (12.4)
43 Tennessee (12.2)
41 Arkansas (11.7)
40 Georgia (11.4)
38 North Carolina (9.7)
37 Kentucky (9.6)
30 Texas (8.2)
28 Florida (7.4)
27 Virginia (7.2)

Why did I select those 13 states? Because they are the 13 states of the Confederacy.

Every state that tried to secede from the United States in 1861 falls among the worst half of US states ranked by homicide rate. The Confederate states account for 7 of the worst 10, and for 10 of the worst 15.
 
W.D.Clinger said:
Looking at US states ranked by homicide rate, it occurs to me that a state's culture and political history might be correlated with its homicide rate.

2021 Ranking / State / homicides per 100,000

50 Mississippi (23.7)
49 Louisiana (21.3)
48 Alabama (15.9)
46 South Carolina (13.4)
45 Missouri (12.4)
43 Tennessee (12.2)
41 Arkansas (11.7)
40 Georgia (11.4)
38 North Carolina (9.7)
37 Kentucky (9.6)
30 Texas (8.2)
28 Florida (7.4)
27 Virginia (7.2)

Why did I select those 13 states? Because they are the 13 states of the Confederacy.

Every state that tried to secede from the United States in 1861 falls among the worst half of US states ranked by homicide rate. The Confederate states account for 7 of the worst 10, and for 10 of the worst 15.
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LOL. The District of Columbia seceded from the Union?
 
Well obviously it's the Union's fault then. Those black people couldn't very well be killing other people if they were out their picking cotton like God intended.

//sarcasm big enough to effect the tides obviously//
 
Thermal said:
Black people are over twice as likely to live in poverty as white people, true (9% vs 21%). But black people commit homicides at 6x the rate of their white counterparts and 8x the burglary. Something is out of whack, there. It's not a noise range disparity. If poverty was indeed the relevant marker, wouldn't the rates be consistent across racial lines?
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Would it be that blacks are more likely to be convicted of such crimes than whites? Conversely, that whites are NOT convicted? A policy of active suppression?
 
Okay so cut the crap and stop being coy.

What IS the x factor that makes blacks commit more crimes? It's obvious you have a theory. Spit it out.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Would it be that blacks are more likely to be convicted of such crimes than whites? Conversely, that whites are NOT convicted? A policy of active suppression?
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Oh, no doubt that happens. But I find it a little tough to swallow that white mass shooters are somehow not being noticed, or are being let off with a wink and nod? I've been checking the gun violence archive link that's been...occasionally...posted here, and it's been consistent. When the bodies hit the floor, there is a disproportionate racial representation in the shooters.
 
JoeMorgue said:
And those differences are?

*Makes the "Get there Faster" motion with my hand*
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I'll chime in: broad cultural resentment against the expectation of being a grateful and compliant little citizen, having been relentlessly screwed and treated like second class for generations. And I wouldn't blame the brothers in the slightest for espousing that cynical view.
 
Like I said earlier I'm just super happy to be a country that has to do the whole "Eskimos have 200 words for snow" thing but with murderdeathkills.

"It's a spree killing unless it breaches the Earth's crust then it's a mass shooting unless it happens in a specific region of France then it's technically a serial killer unless it has 8 legs instead of 6 whereinupon it becomes a thrill killing."
 
Trausti said:
I'd think every American who votes for progressive mayors and soft-on-crime prosecutors are really the problem here. We already have enough gun laws.
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No, you don't. As the eighteen dead in Maine demonstrate.
 
Thermal said:
Black people are over twice as likely to live in poverty as white people, true (9% vs 21%). But black people commit homicides at 6x the rate of their white counterparts and 8x the burglary. Something is out of whack, there. It's not a noise range disparity. If poverty was indeed the relevant marker, wouldn't the rates be consistent across racial lines?
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If it were the only factor, maybe. There is the case that 'poverty' is not a binary state. Two families can be in poverty and still one is more poor than the other for example.

Even leaving that aside, then there is community resources and support. If you're living in poverty but have family and a community that can supply you with resources, and government aid/resources as well, then your 'poverty' isn't as impactful as someone who lacks those things. You can be living in poverty in a neighborhood with decent schools, public resources like local food assistance, good parks, public pools...you know, all those things systematically denied to black neighborhoods for generations. The hope is there even in a lot of poor areas but not in others.

I'm technically living in deep poverty and have all my life. But my family owns this house, with a gas well, and more than one hundred acres and a converted horse barn full of tools out in the country side. These resources were built up by my grandparents and parents. I'm 'white person' poor. A whole lot less likely to feel the need to resort to crime, even though there is a lot of petty and not so petty crime from the white communities around me that just doesn't get addressed.

Oh yeah, living in a city affords more chances at not just crime, but getting caught. Black people in the US wouldn't be concentrated in urban areas would they?
 
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