Merged Bobby Menard has "something" coming! / Menard's Newest Scam...

[arayder]

Has Bobby set a new personal record for running through a subculture.

Twenty years ago he started out telling the fathers rights movement that he had broken the code of law regarding child custody.

It didn't take long before the dads who wanted to be in her non-custodial children's lives figured out Bobby was blowing smoke. After all he couldn't do squat about losing custody of little Elizabeth Anne and there wasn't a single case of Bobby's BS coming though for a father engaged in custody battle.

But, then, Bobby struck pay dirt when he co-oped the detax movement and created freemanism. It took a few years before the subculture caught on to the reality that Bobby was talking jive while others, like Dean Clifford, did all the heavy lifting. Bobby's star started to wain.

It was about this time his problems with drugs and alcohol became painfully apparent.

Next Bobby went into his entrepreneurial period during which he tried to sell, among other things, the ninja goat, grow houses, wooden bath mats and finally the Robo-Breath ventilator which was pitched as a budget ventilator for use with Covid-19 patients. Bobby's MO was to set up "projects" in successive industries each of which had no fore-knowledge of his history of grifting. Eventually everyone caught on.

All during this time Bobby would encounter freeman wannabes who had stumbled upon his old freeman Youtubes and were impressed. It usually never took long before these newbies caught on that Bobby was all sizzle and no steak.

Bobby drifted for a while and made a disastrous attempt at a comeback which ended in a painful to watch drunken Youtube interview with Beth Martens.

Then Bobby found the anti-vax/anti mask movement populated by people who had never heard his shtick. At first, to more ornery anti-vaxers, it must have seemed too good to be true that just a few magic Bobby words could make the government heel.

Could it be that after a few weeks of big talk and no results ending in an attempted grift of Ottawa trucker supporters Bobby has run through another subculture?

I suspect that having run through several subcultures Bobby has moved on to grifting the faith community. He has recently talked about trying to be like Jesus (or is it the other way around?) and has been busy not so subtly recasting Jesus as the first freeman-on-the- land.

A few of his frenemies (people he's scammed but are still on his private message lists) report he's taken up with religious zealots and suggest he's been haunting religious forums and websites.

My guess is that Bobby will try to foist a version of freeman/artist valley on this subculture, which he sees as fresh meat. Communes and communities are Bobby's favorite scheme since buy in requires money and gullibility. The "out move" is laying the blame for the effort's failure on treacherous bankers and regulators.

Bobby wouldn't want any of the folks who have been following him to know exactly who his new friends are since one look at his 20 year old dossier would send the newbies running.

 

[gmanontario]

I suspect that having run through several subcultures Bobby has moved on to grifting the faith community. He has recently talked about trying to be like Jesus (or is it the other way around?) and has been busy not so subtly recasting Jesus as the first freeman-on-the- land.

A few of his frenemies (people he's scammed but are still on his private message lists) report he's taken up with religious zealots and suggest he's been haunting religious forums and websites.

My guess is that Bobby will try to foist a version of freeman/artist valley on this subculture, which he sees as fresh meat. Communes and communities are Bobby's favorite scheme since buy in requires money and gullibility. The "out move" is laying the blame for the effort's failure on treacherous bankers and regulators.

Bobby wouldn't want any of the folks who have been following him to know exactly who his new friends are since one look at his 20 year old dossier would send the newbies running.

So Artist Valley or whatever it was called is gone and dead now? I'm SHOCKED I tell you SHOCKED!.

Still a perfect record for Loser Bobby.

 

[arayder]

So Artist Valley or whatever it was called is gone and dead now? I'm SHOCKED I tell you SHOCKED!.

Still a perfect record for Loser Bobby.

Bobby's not enough of a guru to get his own religious cult going. And he doesn't have the theological background to make sense to a grade school Bible study class.

But not knowing what he's talking about has never stopped Bobby in the past. But he'll get nowhere with this subculture because some of these folks have actually read the Bible.

 

[gmanontario]

Bobby's not enough of a guru to get his own religious cult going. And he doesn't have the theological background to make sense to a grade school Bible study class.

But not knowing what he's talking about has never stopped Bobby in the past. But he'll get nowhere with this subculture because some of these folks have actually read the Bible.

Zero on the charisma scale too. In religous scams, that's an essential skill. He's just wordy and boring.

 

[arayder]

Folks are astounded that Bobby has an unbroken 20 year record of failed projects and they wonder why he persists.

But when ones realizes just how narcissistic Bobby is these announcements of pretend projects make sort of sense.

When Bobby manipulates others it makes him feel alive and gives him a sense of power and purpose.

Back in the day he used to create phony projects, lecture, make YouTubes, sell bogus legal advice and pontificate on web radio shows. It didn't matter that none of his freeman BS worked, or even made sense. All that mattered was that for a while a few gullible wannabe freemen were under his spell. it's what this narcissist lives for.

But now, 20 years later the Bobby show is reduced to ridiculously inane fantasies posted on a lone Facebook page.

 

[junkshop]

...But now, 20 years later the Bobby show is reduced to ridiculously inane fantasies posted on a lone Facebook page.

...and then amplified here.

 

[Susheel]

...and then amplified here.

How so? You think people who come here will be carried away by his propaganda?

 

[arayder]

How so? You think people who come here will be carried away by his propaganda?

I think the notion is that Menard is best just being ignored.

I would agree with that approach were Bobby boy not actively and sometimes successfully soliciting client/marks for his services.

While his client base is waaaay down from his glory days, Bobby still manages now and again to find a dupe who will pay for his advice or buy into one of his "projects".

It never pays off for the poor mark.

 

[arayder]

From his Facebook page:

. . .of course I did not spend the entire summer 8 hours a day clearing a bit of land and cleaning up a homestead.. . .

. . . I got to spend a couple of weeks traveling and camping with a new friend. Been a full summer in that regard too!

. . .I have finally started my novel. . . . . A story of a freedom loving rapscallion in an overly governed dystopian future.

. . .What I am really excited about however is the monthly newspaper we are soon to be publishing. It is called that Canada Freedom Gazette. . . focusing on homesteading, homeschooling, personal freedom, understanding the law, addressing injustice, and sharing the freedom loving perspective. It will be entertaining, informative, empowering and provide a vehicle for serving notice on the governments and as a networking tool for intentional community builders.

As you can imagine there is a lot of work involved, but I am just about there, I just need to assemble a proper Board of Directors to provide the guidance and oversight such a project requires and find a couple more team members. . . . If you are interested in helping by either being a Director or Team member, feel free to contact us. . .

When Eldon Warman went ‘round the bend he showed a relatively recognizable form of lunacy. He got angry, paranoid and violent.

But what I have called the "Warmanization of Robert Menard" is taking a unique turn.

What may appear to be a manic period of heightened productivity and hyper-activity is more likely a narcissist acting out of a desire to exploit and manipulate others.

Bobby needs admiration, attention and dupes. And at this point nothing else matters.

Almost 45 days later there is no news on the progress of the Canada Freedom Gazette.

Bobby has moved on to the less ambitious scheme of offering to edit stories written by his minions.

 

[arayder]

"I believe we're [freemen] labeled as "anti-government," but I would say it's more accurate to say we're pro-good government. We believe in equality and personal responsibility. . ." -- Bobby Menard, January 6, 2016.

"If we as humans are all deemed equal. . . then who has the power to vest in another the right or power to govern us?" -- Bobby Menard, November 3, 2022.

Bobby will say anything he needs to depending on who it is he wants to manipulate.

 

[arayder]

A few days ago Bobby moaned:
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From the Web page of the Governor General:
As representatives of the Crown, the governor general and provincial lieutenant governors act on The King's behalf. In Canada, the power to govern is vested in the Crown but is entrusted to elected governments to exercise on behalf of the people.

This statement raises one singular, simple and unavoidable question. It is however a question no one who claims authority wants to answer.
They claim “The power to govern is vested in the Crown”. By whom? Who does the Crown claim vested the power in the first place?. . .

. . . .If we as humans are all deemed equal (as required by the common law), then who has the power to vest in another the right or power to govern us? And if it is the people who somehow through consent or acquiescence are doing the vesting, then clearly we have the right to not vest in anyone the power for it to be entrusted to others, for them to exercise on our behalf. We can simply do it ourselves. So then when and how did WE vest the power to govern to The Crown?

. . .ask your elected representatives, who apparently are entrusted with the power vested in the Crown, who exactly vested the power into the Crown in the first place. And if they cannot answer that simple question, then how can they support or defend their claim that any power entrusted with them, is lawfully vested in the first place?

What a contradictory hoot Fat Bobby has turned into! Years ago he tried to say he was hired as a Canadian peace officer by a mere handful of people gathered, likely for some other purpose, on a sidewalk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bL7KeUQTfE (see 1:05)

Bobby claims this phony ceremony means he was hired by "the people".

So according to Bobby "I Am the Center of the Universe" Menard a nation's constitution, legislation and subsequent elections don't count for jack shirt. . .but his phony side walk ceremonies give him the power act out his peace officer fantasy.

What a joke!

 

[arayder]

https://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=12346

 

[arayder]

A few days ago Bobby moaned:

Quote:
From the Web page of the Governor General:
As representatives of the Crown, the governor general and provincial lieutenant governors act on The King's behalf. In Canada, the power to govern is vested in the Crown but is entrusted to elected governments to exercise on behalf of the people.

This statement raises one singular, simple and unavoidable question. It is however a question no one who claims authority wants to answer.
They claim “The power to govern is vested in the Crown”. By whom? Who does the Crown claim vested the power in the first place?. . .

. . . .If we as humans are all deemed equal (as required by the common law), then who has the power to vest in another the right or power to govern us? And if it is the people who somehow through consent or acquiescence are doing the vesting, then clearly we have the right to not vest in anyone the power for it to be entrusted to others, for them to exercise on our behalf. We can simply do it ourselves. So then when and how did WE vest the power to govern to The Crown?

. . .ask your elected representatives, who apparently are entrusted with the power vested in the Crown, who exactly vested the power into the Crown in the first place. And if they cannot answer that simple question, then how can they support or defend their claim that any power entrusted with them, is lawfully vested in the first place?

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What a contradictory hoot Fat Bobby has turned into! Years ago he tried to say he was hired as a Canadian peace officer by a mere handful of people gathered, likely for some other purpose, on a sidewalk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bL7KeUQTfE (see 1:05)

Bobby claims this phony ceremony means he was hired by "the people".

So according to Bobby "I Am the Center of the Universe" Menard a nation's constitution, legislation and subsequent elections don't count for jack shirt. . .but his phony side walk ceremonies give him the power act out his peace officer fantasy.

What a joke!

Yes, Bobby will say anything he needs to so as to get over on the gullible.

At about the 10:00 mark in the video below Bobby argues for a direct democracy, a startling contradiction of freemanism since such a system would empower a simple voting majority to make society's rules without having to get a contract with each freeman.

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNcF3D5fqmY&t=84s

This interview was conducted years ago when Bobby was struggling to make freemanism seem sane in the face of several PR disasters created by himself and his fellow freemen.

Meads v, Meads was new. Dean Clifford was making an arse of himself. Andreas Pirelli had just squatted in the home of his elderly landlord calling the home his "embassy". The internet was full of videos of freemen acting out at traffic stops.

. . .and Bobby himself appeared high or drunk during several of his YouTubes.

So Bobby did what he always does. . . he sobered up for a few days and started manipulating easily taken in wannabe freemen.

 

[arayder]

Bobby revives the Artist Valley scheme!

From his Facebook Page:

If you could have your own off grid 600 sf micro home, on your own acre of land, with privacy, independence and ownership, but be part of an artistic community, in an unincorporated municipality, and share community resources such as greenhouse, chicken coop, wood working shops, market stalls, industrial kitchen, large smoker, recording studio, pottery studio, etc would you be interested? What if you were in virgin forest land but only 15km from a major urban area with all the amenities you would ever need? What if you were only 20km from the ocean?

What if your home came with a free large screen LED TV, top of the line computer and electric scooter or bike, and all the amenities, such as furnishings, bed and sheets and pillows, pots and pans? What if your computer was mining cryptocurrency and powered by the sun and generated over $200 a month just sitting there? What if your home came with free high speed unlimited data internet and a cellphone? What if your home tied you in with a growing database of multinational companies looking for people to work from home and you could earn $20-$40 an hour from home at your own pace?

What of you had fresh filtered water, and access to a hot tub and sauna, community gym and common fire pit and large BBQ? What if your community was composed of other artistic freedom loving families willing to collaborate on community success? What if you had access to your own prepared garden plot and greenhouse and a funding pool to start up and operate other self-sufficiency projects such as aquaculture and farming?

What if you did not need any money down, and this offer was open to those on government assistance, retirees, veterans and the homeless? What if you could rent to own such a property and home, and be a part of such a community, at less than what you are paying in rent now?

Contact me for details if interested.

NOTE: Unincorporated means NO BYLAWS or governmental permission required to build.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

From his Facebook Page:

Someone has been drinking in too much American folk mythology. Sounds like The Big Rock Candy Mountain to me.

In the Big Rock Candy Mountains
There's a land that's fair and bright
Where the handouts grow on bushes
And you sleep out every night
Where the boxcars all are empty
And the sun shines every day

and etc.

But he should be wary of consequences. Here is an expurgated verse:

“The punk rolled up his big blue eyes and said to the jocker, “Sandy, I’ve hiked and hiked and wandered too, But I ain’t seen any candy. I’ve hiked and hiked till my feet are sore, I’ll be God damned if I hike any more, To be buggered sore like a hobo’s whore In the Big Rock Candy Mountains.”

(per: The True Story of The Big Rock Candy Mountain

 

[arayder]

Someone has been drinking in too much American folk mythology. Sounds like The Big Rock Candy Mountain to me.

A few years ago when Bobby started stealing the intellectual property of others so as to make his endeavors seems real he crossed over into a new morally warped territory.

IMHO, Bobby's moving into a new pattern of behavior in which, what may look to us as scams and witless self-promotions, are really the magical thinking of a hopelessly dysfunctional narcissist.

Bobby's magical thinking leads him to believe he can remake the world around him with his thought. Indeed, that simply posting a scheme on Facebook makes it so.

One might think that Menard keeps pitching these fanciful projects because he's mining a sea of gullibles in search of the dwindling number of people who don't know he's a life long loser. But, I am beginning to think he losing his marbles. I mean he doesn't seem to have the sense to get off this freeman/artist valley fantasy or at least make the plan into something attainable.

 

[gmanontario]

Geez a new Artist Village. But wait there's more!

I wonder where he's planning to get all that high end equipment, building materials and labor to build it all? AFAIK all that cost money. Lots of money. What could go wrong when you build a house yourself with no prior experience?

He sure went overboard here. A sure sign of desperation. Besides, in Canada unincorporated means no local government so the provincial government oversees it. He lies again.

From Wikipedia

In Canada, depending on the province, an unincorporated settlement is one that does not have a municipal council that governs solely over the settlement. It is usually, but not always, part of a larger municipal government. These range from small hamlets to large urbanized areas similar in size to a town or city.

For example, were they incorporated, the urban service areas of Fort McMurray in the Regional Municipality of Wood Buffalo and Sherwood Park in Strathcona County would be the fifth- and sixth-largest cities in Alberta.

In British Columbia, unincorporated settlements lie outside municipal boundaries entirely, and are administered directly by regional/county-level governments similar to the American system.[citation needed]

Unincorporated settlements with a population between 100 and 1,000 residents may have the status of designated place in Canadian census data.[4]

In some provinces, large tracts of undeveloped wilderness or rural country are unorganized areas that fall directly under the provincial jurisdiction. Some unincorporated settlements in such unorganized areas may have some types of municipal services provided to them by a quasigovernmental agency such as a local services board in Ontario. In New Brunswick, where a significant population lives in a local service district, taxation and services may come directly from the province.

 

[arayder]

From Scammer Bobby's Facebook page:

Mike Just I’ve wanted something like that for decades

Robert Menard Mike Just me too Mike this is been a dream of mine for going on two decades now and is probably the fifth iteration.

Yeah, 20 years ago Bobby told gullible freeman wannabes they could simply appropriate federal lands a-la their birth bonds and create a "freeman valley".

Just like every other Bobby scam nothing of the sort happened!

You'd think that after 20 years of failure Bobby would have the sense to plan ahead and do the work necessary to get his little utopia going!

But, for Scammer Bobby, it's not about creating anything. It was all about his self-important fantasies of success, power and brilliance.

 

[arayder]

Over on Quatloos* they got Bobby's number.

Re: Yet another Menard scheme
Rupert68
Yet another Artist Valley scheme by my favorite loser. This one he upped the number of lies and promises:
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"If you could have your own off grid 600 sf micro home, on your own acre of land, with privacy, independence and ownership, but be part of an artistic communit. . ."

". . . NOTE: Unincorporated means NO BYLAWS or governmental permission required to build."
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The last line is a lie of course.

The Observer
. . . .All of Menard's scams dreams are based on "what if..." and not any substance. Any normal person could see that it is simply not realistic to expect that they are going to receive a free computer, a free TV, free furniture, free homewares, free internet, free phone service and the rest of the pie in the sky that Menard is claiming will happen. Someone has to pay for those things to happen and that someone is going to expect the residents to do that paying. And to put more fake topping on that make-believe pie, Menard taps into the typical scam items of fictional companies paying you to work from home along with you earning more money in the crypto market.

And it is utter nonsense that this fairy-tale community is going to pull together and work hard to erect all of the infrastructure that Menard promises; the only people showing up for this fake land-grab are going to be people who think that someone else will do the work and they will reap the benefits. Even If this scheme ever got a foot off the ground, there would be 10 or 20 people standing around doing nothing and wondering why everyone else isn't busy making their dream come true.

Wasn't there an attempt to put some kind of micro home community in a squatter's camp up in Qualicum Beach? I think Dean Kory tried to make that dream come true and it all fell apart.

Rupert68
20+ years of continuous failure. You have to hand it to him though. If at first you don't succeed, find another gullible group of fellow losers and try try again.

Not many people can say their project record in life is perfect. One of his rubes called me a slave. Yep, a slave who lives in a mortgage free home, takes Mediterranean cruises almost every year, makes good money in retirement, no debts at all and has 3 successful kids, all with their own families. It's better to be a slogan shouting, sign waving zealot living in public housing (not that that's a bad thing) complaining about my slave status I guess.

*https://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/vi...&sid=83abe905c6a939c3ac08452f871eafa3#p294807

 

[Myriad]

Six hundred square foot affordable private homes with shared community amenities. Sure; it's called a trailer park.

On individual one acre lots? That depends. If you want the homes to be in the middles of their respective lots, widely spaced apart, then you have to lay a lot of water and sewer pipes and electric wires and streets and driveways to all of them. That's called a suburb, and it drives the cost higher than apartment rents. (It's generally considered not worth it, unless the individual homes are bigger, which is why "a trailer park but the sites are scattered through the woods instead of close together" is a rarity if it exists at all, even in places where land is cheap.) Cluster the homes instead, such as at centers where eight one-acre wedges meet at a point, and maybe it's possible.

If I were designing from scratch for some combination of economy and sustainability, in a vacuum, I'd question everything. Maybe car access to individual homes isn't needed or even desirable. Maybe each home has a composting toilet but isn't connected to running water (with bathing, laundry, and taps for filling containers centralized in shared hubs, like in a family campground). But in the present day, wherever you are, there are a host of regulations that disallow such compromises for permanent residences. No running water equals uninhabitable. No automobile access, well, be prepared to have to change that if required to allow fair housing for someone with a disability.

The most difficult issue, though, isn't affording amenities. It's balancing freedom with community responsibility in a community with lots of shared stuff. And if you're renting to own, that means someone else owns it in the meantime, and that owner (aka landlord) has to be certain you're not doing anything to the property that will reduce its value or invalidate any of its insurance policies. So be prepared to live under HOA-like rules rather than libertarian autonomy.