You think that was a non-pejorative usage? Your reading comprehension fails you.
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“Woke”
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You think that was a non-pejorative usage? Your reading comprehension fails you.
FTFY
Woke is slightly different to "PC" - PC - in modern use of course - was created by the right as a strawman to attack.
d4m10n
Penultimate Amazing
Yes - the quote you gave was: "Baz Luhrmann’s biopic scrambles to reassure us with a woke Elvis while failing to understand what really made him the King."
That "woke" is being used as a pejorative aimed at Luhrmann's take on Elvis.
ZirconBlue
Sole Survivor of L-Town
As an insult to AAVE, I'm trying to figure out if this is racist, or just being a snob.
To most conservatives, any attempt to be inclusive is "taking social consciousness/ political correctness to comical extremes"
The Potato Head toys are not "gender neutral". They just removed "Mr." from the brand name. Of course, like most of these stories, it doesn't fit the narrative of the anti-woke brigade.
They said they were dropping the Mr. to promote "gender equality and inclusion". How is that not "fit[ting] the narrative of the anti-woke brigade"?
Thermal
August Member
Sorry, I'm having trouble with Google Translate. I speak EASDSVE (European American Surfer Dude SubVenacular English, also known as BrahBonics). Would you mind checking your privelige and being more inclusive to my personal slang and idioms?
Many do, to be sure. Are you suffering under the common misconception that there are only two possible reference points in American thought? Some of the woke **** is truly comical. Check out the Wiki entry on AAVE, with its cross reference to "Jive Talk", for example.
What shutIt said. They were not exactly subtle about it.
I mean, kudos to inclusiveness. But after a point, it becomes insulting and patronizing to the intended inclusivees.
d4m10n
Penultimate Amazing
No, "woke" is being used as shorthard for someone having a "liberal conscience who is deeply moved by...various political and social crises" of his time and place in history. This is a perfectly cromulent and politically neutral usage of the term, and not remotely pejorative. It is literally what people mean when they self-identify as woke.
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I think this is close, but not quite there. One has to have particular beliefs about the nature of, and solutions to, these crises to be woke.
d4m10n
Penultimate Amazing
Suppose Elvis is deeply moved by the political and social crises of his time, when activists were largely focused on equal rights for African Americans and women. What more does he require to become woke?
d4m10n
Penultimate Amazing
A wise man once wrote "The master is usage."
Give up usage, give up mastery.
Because it would require a massive amount of eavesdropping to say with any certainty whether African Americans have given up usage of the term (statistically speaking) and if I had access to the unredacted Alexa usage database, I'd be contractually obligated not to leverage that information here.
(An African American colleague recently mocked my wife for being "so woke," in a gibingly friendly way, because my wife was taken aback when hearing "gypped" used in a sentence. I don't know whether this was meant in the progressive sense or the conservative sense, but it did make me laugh.)
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arthwollipot
Limerick Purist Pronouns: He/Him
Well, to some extent the same could be said of "woke". I agree it's not a perfect analogy but it is an illustration of what I was talking about. The modern usage has made it more or less useless for good communication.
At least this has helped me understand you a bit better.
d4m10n
Penultimate Amazing
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https://twitter.com/KathyBurke/status/1502941939427074050
Popped up in my social feed this a.m.
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https://twitter.com/KathyBurke/status/1502941939427074050
Popped up in my social feed this a.m.
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So woke to use a sexual slur. ("Oh but I used it wokily against people I hate so it's ok," no doubt.)
Twat - at least in the UK - has long passed being an inherently sexual slur. It means an unpleasant person.
ETA:If that is the Kathy Burke I think it is, she was being very restrained in her language!
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Venom
Philosopher
In the early days of social media I looked at "woke" culture almost like the social conscious analogue to "born again" evangelism. I thought they were mostly well-meaning crackpot African Americans hooked on conspiracy theories.
Now it's become a smear against almost any socially conscious act. No doubt this usage is weaponized by some elements of the rightwing who know very well the differences between the wokescolds and normal empathetic people.
Now it's become a smear against almost any socially conscious act. No doubt this usage is weaponized by some elements of the rightwing who know very well the differences between the wokescolds and normal empathetic people.
d4m10n
Penultimate Amazing
Shouldn't we defer to the offended twats though?
Seems like a continuum problem.
Checkmite
Skepticifimisticalationist
All three of these sources are using the word as a pejorative; so the answer is "no, no, and no".