Alien Visitation Contact Proof

[Olmstead]

Anyway I'm not bothered about time skipping, it's a chinese hardware

I accept it could be the camera and not frozen time, I just find it odd that when the 10th second arrives, it should be dark, but fine, I concede, it's just a bug...

But that leaves the unidentifiable light and the unidentifiable sound when there was no power coming into the complex to make any light or sound, if not for the battery, we wouldn't have seen anything

Again, you have confirmed yourself that this:

is an actual light from another building, and it momentarily turned on after the outage.

 

[sts60]

The person who explains it is not a loony if nobody else can offer a better explanation

For my part, I’m not at all saying you’re a loony. I’m simply pointing out that your own observations rule out your central premise: that an interstellar spacecraft was hovering nearby, using thrust from a dense hypersonic stream of charged particles at the bottom of the troposphere..

It’s like the curious case of the dog in the nighttime; it’s what you didn’t observe that is significant - that, in fact, contradicts your own claim.

 

[Gamolon]

Anyway I'm not bothered about time skipping, it's a chinese hardware

I accept it could be the camera and not frozen time, I just find it odd that when the 10th second arrives, it should be dark, but fine, I concede, it's just a bug...

Really?

Part of your story is that you were transported which is why time skipped. You mentioned this a couple of times.

Now, since it's been pointed out to you what probably happened regarding the skipped time, you all of a sudden deem it's "not important".

 

[sackett]

I have it on good authority that aliens are extremely attracted to nutters.

Other way around too, and my authority is gooder than yours.

The ×@+x#,☆,!¿ software tried to make gooder into goober, but I have a sub-doctorate degree in editing and I fi Ed it.

 

[jsfisher]

The original raw file is not manipulated..

Raw video? What does that really mean? A true "raw video" file would be huge. Doesn't your camera compress the video before saving it to the SD card? MPEG is common, although not the only possibility.

 

[jsfisher]

Oh, does anyone have a reference for the protocol power companies follow when a critter shorts things? I thought there were a few on/off switching in an attempt to remove (incinerate) the problem, but I cannot back that up with any reliable information source.

 

[autumn1971]

Given the report of a major power outage 7 years ago, that puts it in Adelaide. After this outage is when Musk built the Big Battery, which has been successfully maintaining the power supply for the region ever since, hence no subsequent major power outages.

I stand corrected about my power outages a few times a year assertion.
Thank you

 

[Gamolon]

It was silent outside the neighbour was awake.. the sound we do hear, only the camera heard it...

Why does being silent outside matter when your camera is inside your home?

 

[ferd burfle]

cjdelphi, you seem unable or unwilling to consider seriously other possible explanations for what you experienced. You already had a conclusion firmly in mind when you came here. Though you profess to be a skeptic, yours isn't a skeptical approach. Even Mulder was more open-minded.

 

[autumn1971]

Any aliens would be using much more advanced tech than I can imagine, but we have ion drives they are just useless in 1,000 years time or even 100 they might be the new way to get around, people heard your talk when they first dreamed if going to the moon

Glad we ain't all like you we would be in the dark ages living under rocks in fear

I am asking this because I don’t know; what would be the required energy output of an ion-beam powered aircraft of (being generous here,) enough mass to carry the required power supply and a light beam thingy in addition to the actual hardware to contain and focus the ion-beam inside the Earth’s gravity well?

I kinda suspect a large portion of Australia would notice the annihilation of a large city.

 

[8enotto]

Ok cdelphi, let's say it was alien contact and every idea you offer is correct.

These aliens came, did a wireless recharge of the iSaucer and scanned your back yard. Basically giving you five months of sleepless nights and a lot of stress.

Did they leave any messages you can detect?
Do you feel a need to pass some cryptic message from them or fill a notebook with an long string of numbers, like that British bloke did?
Did anything useful at all come of this for you?

If the aliens are watching us, what should we do differently? Why should we care if they only show up to mess with programmers in Australia and rednecks in Kentucky and then scoot off?

The point is there this visit had no purpose beyond blowing up the power grid trying to recharge the iSaucer. You had no useful part in it.

Its no better than crop circles that are cool art but mean nothing. Except maybe when goofs with woo tv shows say what they KNOW it means.
Usually end nukes and seek peace.

What was this attempt at contact about?

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Oh, does anyone have a reference for the protocol power companies follow when a critter shorts things? I thought there were a few on/off switching in an attempt to remove (incinerate) the problem, but I cannot back that up with any reliable information source.

The OP said yesterday that's what would have happened so it's what happened:

Nothing takes out the power here last time was 7 years ago when a huge storm took out the entire state, energy supply here is among the best in the world at 240 volts, the relays would shut down if they detect a phase issue or overload and that's what they did.

A moment later they would try again but fall if the fault is there and shutdown which they did..

Since then it seems to have become more important to insist that no power at all was present during the "alien visitation" glitch so the anomalies (which look to me like the effects of a momentary attempt to reapply the mains supply) can instead be claimed to be the work of aliens.

 

[MBDK]

The government with secret tech? That's less plausible than aliens

This is why your claims of your logical abilities are unjustified. The government and secret technologies have been proven, with valid demonstrable evidence, to exist. Aliens piloting UFOs, upon adequate inspection, have always been imaginary.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I am asking this because I don’t know; what would be the required energy output of an ion-beam powered aircraft of (being generous here,) enough mass to carry the required power supply and a light beam thingy in addition to the actual hardware to contain and focus the ion-beam inside the Earth’s gravity well?

I kinda suspect a large portion of Australia would notice the annihilation of a large city.

(While waiting for the Australians to wake up and jump in to suggest which cities might be annihilated without anyone noticing for years) it seems to me like even if the aliens had tech which didn't destroy everything under their ship with a torrent of hypersonic ions, but merely overloaded the power locally under their flight path, there ought to be a neat line of power cuts carved across any city they visited, every time they visit.

Someone would notice that, eventually.

 

[autumn1971]

(While waiting for the Australians to wake up and jump in to suggest which cities might be annihilated without anyone noticing for years) it seems to me like even if the aliens had tech which didn't destroy everything under their ship with a torrent of hypersonic ions, but merely overloaded the power locally under their flight path, there ought to be a neat line of power cuts carved across any city they visited, every time they visit.

Someone would notice that, eventually.

OMG!!! Someone finally did!!1!11eleventy!

But seriously, say a 1000 kilogram craft, what amount of energy would an ion beam have to impart to the city below?

 

[Steve]

cjdelphi, you seem unable or unwilling to consider seriously other possible explanations for what you experienced. You already had a conclusion firmly in mind when you came here. Though you profess to be a skeptic, yours isn't a skeptical approach. Even Mulder was more open-minded.


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“The aliens picked me! That makes me special and worthy of attention”.

Actually, as 8ennoto has already said, even if the whole thing happened exactly as cjdelphi described there is nothing there that makes a whit of difference to humanity in general or to any particular human beyond being able to claim “I saw some odd lights”.

The strange ways aliens are claimed to interact with humans really indicates that with all their supposed watching and studying they still have not been able to work out an effective communication plan. (Strangely similar to gods, actually. But we must not go down that road in this thread lest we risk the wrath of our mods).

 

[sts60]

OMG!!! Someone finally did!!1!11eleventy!

But seriously, say a 1000 kilogram craft, what amount of energy would an ion beam have to impart to the city below?

This is supposed to be a crewed interstellar spacecraft. I’d say you need to add some multiples of 10.

 

[Steve]

All this discussion of alien ion drives has me wondering how prophetic Arthur C Clarke actually was. Is a visit from the Overlords in our immediate future? Surely humanity, in its current rather sad state, is not worthy of such attention.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

So, did we ever get an answer (just in case I missed something in reading through all this) to the very basic question about recording sound in stereo?

I'd quite like to know about that...

 

[Myriad]

But that leaves the unidentifiable light and the unidentifiable sound when there was no power coming into the complex to make any light or sound, if not for the battery, we wouldn't have seen anything

Since your whole case appears to depend on there being no transients on the grid power lines in your neighborhood during an unplanned outage, tell us more about these "relays" that isolate your home from the rest of the power grid during outages.

When you talked about it early in the thread I, and some other posters too, thought you were talking about some kind of battery backup or uninterruptible power supply (UPS) system kicking in. If you're going to use a battery bank or generator to power your electrical panel during an outage, you need a relay or manual switch to isolate your home wiring from the grid, sometimes called a Transfer Switch. That would be your own property and located on your own premises (which would be the only way you'd be likely to hear any sound of "relays" due to the outage). Without such a device, energizing the wiring to your home's electrical panel will also energize the supply lines they're connected to, risking electrocuting people who are working to restore the power.

If you aren't using a transfer switch, then yes, transients in the power lines absolutely can occur during an outage, especially the first few seconds. And obviously did, in the case at hand. Some of your and/or your neighbors' lights flickered. That's what the video shows.