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Alien Visitation Contact Proof

cjdelphi said:
https://youtu.be/mGWPUGZQrqo
https://youtu.be/XtJva_mAk80

These things the navy chase are ghosts then? ... we have enough proof they are here, I have proof they are visiting, you see the difference?
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Once again, there are other threads that show you cannot reliably make any such conclusion. With that in mind, I am a bit surprised at your preferentially high standards of proof for ghosts. I'll just file that under the usual CT-ist's penchant for hypocrisy, as there is only your subjective difference.
 
arthwollipot said:
No, the things that the Navy chase are other aircraft, plastic bags and camera lens flares.
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Plastic bags can't travel from 9,000 feet to ground level in under a second, plastic bags can't submerge under water like these UAPs do..

You don't sound like you know much about them, the tic tac, the gimbal can all be traced back to much earlier reports and sightings

https://youtu.be/5y2xOQHbT6A

A police officer chased a tic tac and watched people get out, I've done my research, japanese airlines also have a compelling argument backed up by radar

Phoenix lights Arizona, control tower could see the lights with their own eyes but nothing on radar

The Belgium government came forward 15 years ago with stuff they chased

They are very real, if you sleep better at night thinking the chinese or russian own it, we wouldn't be speaking english now and china would own Taiwan with that tech

You can claim I'm biased, but I'm not, I have simply seen enough evidence, show evidence for god,ghosts I'll change my mind I'm not ignorant I am seeking the truth
 
MBDK said:
None of this unfounded speculation answered the questions I asked, so I repeat, and please focus this time:

"since you have exhausted EVERY other possibility, what was your criteria for ruling out a targeted governmental psyop experiment to determine your actual sleuthing prowess? Perhaps they have you destined for even greater, but more realistic, assignments?"
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I'm a skeptic who has chased after proof for 15 years, there is nothing to say, you do know skeptics have changed their mind ? It can happen...

I was originally skeptic I was unsure for many years things changed i am a messenger nothing more
 
cjdelphi said:
Plastic bags can't travel from 9,000 feet to ground level in under a second, plastic bags can't submerge under water like these UAPs do..
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These are not facts about the Pentagon videos that are established beyond reasonable doubt.

cjdelphi said:
You don't sound like you know much about them,...
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I know more about them than you think.

Again, watch this video since you like YouTube evidence so much. It's not long.



Here's another one:

 
arthwollipot said:
These are not facts about the Pentagon videos that are established beyond reasonable doubt.

I know more about them than you think.

Again, watch this video since you like YouTube evidence so much. It's not long.



Here's another one:

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YouTube videos are made from ufo reports and it's easier to get someone to watch something than read a 300 page report on it...

https://youtu.be/4yX6ETCKyPo

Luis Elizondo is the one who said they can do the speeds that would kill humans, what's his motive for lying? Along with all the other ufo reports?
 
cjdelphi said:
YouTube videos are made from ufo reports and it's easier to get someone to watch something than read a 300 page report on it...
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Right, so you're going to watch those two videos I just posted, right?

cjdelphi said:
Luis Elizondo is the one who said they can do the speeds that would kill humans, what's his motive for lying? Along with all the other ufo reports?
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:eye-poppi What's Luis Elizondo's motive? Luis Elizondo? Are you kidding? Money! Of course it's money!

Luis Elizondo is a member of the extremely well-funded so-called Invisible College, set up by Jacques Vallée, J. Allen Hynek and Hal Puthoff in the 1990s. They receive funding from billionaire Robert Bigelow and are supported by US Senator Harry Reid. They got US$22 Million in government funding in 2007, and a further US$10 Million in 2008.

Elizondo is now trying to get even more government funding for SkyFort, a company set up expressly for the purpose of promoting the alien interpretation of the Pentagon videos.

Because it's all about the money.
 
arthwollipot said:
Right, so you're going to watch those two videos I just posted, right?

:eye-poppi What's Luis Elizondo's motive? Luis Elizondo? Are you kidding? Money! Of course it's money!

Luis Elizondo is a member of the extremely well-funded so-called Invisible College, set up by Jacques Vallée, J. Allen Hynek and Hal Puthoff in the 1990s. They receive funding from billionaire Robert Bigelow and are supported by US Senator Harry Reid. They got US$22 Million in government funding in 2007, and a further US$10 Million in 2008.

Elizondo is now trying to get even more government funding for SkyFort, a company set up expressly for the purpose of promoting the alien interpretation of the Pentagon videos.

Because it's all about the money.
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I already watched the videos you linked, as a skeptic all that needs to be said is swamp gas , weather balloon

Even though it's not... nobody can prove you wrong until aliens land and announce themselves and even then a few skeptics will say it's a fire truck and saw nothing

If it was about money, why now? Wasnt there money to be made 50 years ago? What's changed?
 
cjdelphi said:
I already watched the videos you linked, as a skeptic all that needs to be said is swamp gas , weather balloon
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If that's all you can say about them then I would lay bets that you didn't watch them.

cjdelphi said:
Even though it's not... nobody can prove you wrong until aliens land and announce themselves and even then a few skeptics will say it's a fire truck and saw nothing
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Not at all. We just require evidence, not speculation. You have not presented evidence. You've presented the same old grainy videos and blurry photos that we've been seeing for decades. If aliens really are visiting us, why are there no truly clear photos of them? Everybody today carries around a high-fidelity still and video camera in their pockets and purses. Why can no-one catch a clear image of an alien?

I'll tell you why. Because in all of the clear images, we can see what they are. Aliens exist in the blurriness, in the indistinct nature of unclear images.

cjdelphi said:
If it was about money, why now? Wasnt there money to be made 50 years ago? What's changed?
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The internet.

Prior to the internet, someone had an episode of sleep paralysis and there was no-one to tell other than a few friends and family. Maybe a local newspaper or TV news. Today, you can post a blurry photo online and it can be seen by millions. There has been a massive expansion in the market in the last forty years. Of course people are going to exploit that.

Also, there is Robert Bigelow, the real estate and aerospace tycoon who is the money behind almost everything you've seen in the media about UFOs since the mid-90s. You want a conspiracy? There's a real one. Vallée, Hyneck, Puthoff, Bigelow, Reid, Elizondo, Kean. The Pentagon video leak can be traced back to them. The New York Times article can be traced back to them. AATIP can be traced back to them. Follow the money, CJ. It ends with Bigelow.
 
I've presented grainy images? I've only supplied 1 the orange orb...

The video shows the alien light, lights up my path as clear as day! You know damn well it does

You can't get a good quality photo of something more than a km away if you need proof take a photo of a bird in a tree which is identifiable, it will be blury but recognizable.. a bird a blury bird

A person posted a blury photo of space x lander you can see the feet even though it was blury, I can post a blury 747 but it's clearly a plane

The REAL reason why it's un identifiable is simple, nobody has ever seen one it's not ours, it's nothing to do with being blurry.
 
cjdelphi said:
The sound you hear is directly from the light source, the power doesn't come back on for an hour later, there was nothing in this home connected to mains to get power to make noise

When the power finally came back on, you don't hear that sound, nothing here makes that sound, and since the noise co'incides with the very millisecond that light hits the floor...

At that point only the camera, my red led light and google mini have power, they wouldn't be interrupted as it's powered by a 100ah lifepo4 battery

What was that noise in your video? Sounded like a bad inductor or capacitors had dropped in capacity causing a lower frequency on the transformer...

I never watched it all, I repair electronics all the time
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So it couldn't possibly be any light with a power supply coming back on. Could it. Of course not.

Does your building have Emergency Exit lights? When do they come on? Where are they?
 
cjdelphi said:
I've presented grainy images? I've only supplied 1 the orange orb...

The video shows the alien light, lights up my path as clear as day! You know damn well it does
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It's a video of a light. A light. Nothing more. The most informative thing you can say about it is "yep, that's a light".
 
arthwollipot said:
Right, so you're going to watch those two videos I just posted, right?

:eye-poppi What's Luis Elizondo's motive? Luis Elizondo? Are you kidding? Money! Of course it's money!

Luis Elizondo is a member of the extremely well-funded so-called Invisible College, set up by Jacques Vallée, J. Allen Hynek and Hal Puthoff in the 1990s. They receive funding from billionaire Robert Bigelow and are supported by US Senator Harry Reid. They got US$22 Million in government funding in 2007, and a further US$10 Million in 2008.

Elizondo is now trying to get even more government funding for SkyFort, a company set up expressly for the purpose of promoting the alien interpretation of the Pentagon videos.

Because it's all about the money.
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Norman Alexander said:
And since it is a light that obeys physics, it is coming from above and to the right of the frame, probably a floodlight of some sort from a balcony or roof above.
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You see the light start 60 metres away then as it gets closer it focuses light onto the floor of my bedroom window and all the light scattering in the previous frames are gone, why ignore that? Why ignore the sound when nothing was on to make it? Why ignore the fact by the 10th second it should he dark but it's not..

Focus on the light but not the light source, is that the idea of a skeptic is? To not investigate and just make it sound implausible?
 
cjdelphi said:
You see the light start 60 metres away then as it gets closer it focuses light onto the floor of my bedroom window and all the light scattering in the previous frames are gone, why ignore that? Why ignore the sound when nothing was on to make it? Why ignore the fact by the 10th second it should he dark but it's not..

Focus on the light but not the light source, is that the idea of a skeptic is? To not investigate and just make it sound implausible?
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It's totally plausible if you use physics.

You might also look into the logical fallacy: post hoc ergo propter hoc. Just because you saw a light came on over there and the lawn lit up over here at the same time does not mean to say one caused the other.

Methinks you doth protest too hard. If you really want to convince me, send a pic of your property facing towards your window from the outside. Show all the building.

Oh, and I'm not going to open your GoogleDrive. It's locked for a start.
 
cjdelphi said:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XNVmVZKe4NuBB9l3sjIAL7mRmMlphRAs/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1X3cB1VQpUiBs5bItGuNdSwGTlcvdzaCZ/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XZJ36BTUbQLzggzuqt0l57Gy-QSGVfrN/view?usp=drivesdk

A light source that comes from the other side of the tree and lights up the ground without reflecting light off the car like all my lights do...

Try again, it's not normal.
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Rubbish. That's a reflection of a lampshade in your house.
 
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