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Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

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Planigale said:
Can you link to the actual report as opposed to someone's opinion on it?
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I have already pointed out to DetectedMotion that the Hatchard report is a website, not an actual report.
He did not appear to know this, nor has he acknowledged this. I would therefore suggest that linking to an actual report is impossible, since it does not exist.
Of course, DetectedMotion could always set the record straight.....
 
michaelsuede said:
She was fired, which you would know if you listened to what she had to say. I hope you vaccinate your kids. Kids are at great risk from COVID.
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Don't watch random vids on the net, especially when I don't know it's a trustworthy site.

I did read the linked Kirsch piece and he did not say she was fired.

There are many reasons a nurse can be fired: how do we know that this had anything to do with Covid? Any supporting documents anywhere? Maybe she was just crap at her job? Maybe she assaulted a patient? Maybe she was stealing from work? Drunk at work? Time sheet fraud? Just to pick 5 reasons I know for nurses being fired.

Why on earth would you assume I have children? Just something else you plucked from the air?
 
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Tippit said:
Surgical masks work for surgery, preventing bodily fluids from splashing the face, bacteria, and protozoans, but not for preventing .1 micron highly contagious aerosolized viruses. In other words, different masks work (or do not work as the case may be) for different applications.
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You still don't know how a virus leaves the body in exhaled breath?

It's not like it hasn't been explained. Why would you still be making this same claim after all this time.
 
Tippit said:
You, like most pseudo-skeptics, just suffer from massive egos and the hubris that thinks that not only do you represent "science", but that you know everything about everything.
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...said the mesomorph who has expressed, in no uncertain terms, his belief that he is fitter, stronger, healthier, and faster than anyone else in this thread.

Foster Zygote said:
The psychological projection is deafening.
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eerok said:
That's hilarious.
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Tippit said:
It's not a question of me not knowing as much as them, it's a question of them lacking credibility.
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Tippit is not just fitter, stronger, healthier, and faster than anyone else. He also believes he is more credible.
 
Planigale said:
Do you know how vaccines work? For instance how does smallpox vaccine work/
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The premise of your question is ridiculous, because different vaccines work differently. Smallpox vaccine infects the host to elicit an immune response, but it's not a severe infection because it's been attenuated - in other words, nothing like what I just described about the mRNA "vaccines", which, by the way are leaky and non-sterilizing, unlike the smallpox vaccine.
 
Planigale said:
So that means over 60% of over Illinois deaths are in the unvaccinated. Approximately 90% of deaths are in the over 65s and the vaccination rate in the over 65s is about 90%. So the 10% of the unvaccinated are contributing 60% of deaths. So I think your statistic says unvaccinated 6 times more likely to die; pretty good evidence of protection?
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I don't deny the experimental gene therapy elicits an immune response which offers protection depending on the variant. I'm claiming that Covid mortality stats are bogus, VAERS stats with reasonably inferred reporting rates indicate deaths in the tens or even hundreds of thousands, injuries in the millions, and moderate to severe adverse events in the tens of millions. I'm claiming that hospitals are killing patients and blaming it on Covid, health bureaucrats are killing people by panning early treatments that actually work, and for any protection the "vaccines" offer they probably aren't worth either the short or as yet unknown long term risks, given the efficacy of the suppressed treatments, and infection survival rates. They definitely aren't worth the risks in children, and especially young males.
 
Planigale said:
You may have missed the fact that there isn't just one spike protein? The whole thing about the variants is the continual (random) genetic modification of the virus resulting in multiple variants of the spike (and other) proteins, including some modifications of the spike protein allowing the virus to escape immune surveillance due to previous SARS-CoV-2 infection, hence omicron causes infections in those previously infected by alpah or delta variants.
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Right. This doesn't change the fact that the "vaccine" spike is a product of GMO RNA.
 
W.D.Clinger said:
...said the mesomorph who has expressed, in no uncertain terms, his belief that he is fitter, stronger, healthier, and faster than anyone else in this thread.






Tippit is not just fitter, stronger, healthier, and faster than anyone else. He also believes he is more credible.
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Kid Creole and the Coconuts have a song about Tippit. Unfortunately they committed the cardinal sing of spelling his name wrong.

Endicott's up by 5 o'clock
Endicott's givin' it all he got
Endicott's job is six to nine but
Endicott's home by nine O five
Endicott helps to cook the steak
Endicott helps to wash the plates
Endicott puts the kids to bed
Endicott reads a book to them
Endicott loves Tribena so
Endicott puts her on a pedestal
Endicott's wish is her command but
Endicott don't make no demands
Endicott's always back in time
Endicott's not the cheatin' kind
Endicott's full of compliment
Endicott's such a gentleman
Cause I'm free
Free of any made-to-order liabilities
Thank God I'm free
Cos it's hard enough for me
to take care of me, oh-oh
Endicott's carryin' a heavy load but
Endicott never really ever moans
Endicott's not a wealthy guy but
Endicott pays the bills on time
Endicott's got ideas and plans
Endicott's what you call a real man
Endicott always will provide 'cause
Endicott is the family type
Cause I'm free
Freer than a pirate on a frigate out at sea
Thank God I'm free
Driftin' all around just like a tumbleweed, oh-oh
Maybe I need someone
Someone who isn't undone
Maybe an older woman
Will tolerate me
Maybe that certain someone
Older and wiser woman
Maybe the perfect someone
To satisfy me
Endicott keeps his body clean
Endicott don't use nicotine
Endicott don't drink alcohol
Endicott use no drugs at all
Endicott don't eat any sweet
Endicott don't eat pig feet
Endicott's frame is mighty strong
Endicott make love hard and long
Endicott loves Tribena so
Endicott walks her to the sto'
Endicott likes to hold her hand
Endicott's proud to be her man
Endicott stands for decency
Endicott means formality
Endicott's the epitome
Endicott stands for quality
Endicott
Endicott
Endicott
Endicott
 
Planigale said:
I can tell you that!

The vaccinated patients who die from covid are those with advanced diseases who decline ICU admission or are felt inappropriate for ICU admission. So they are a much higher risk group than the unvaccinated again emphasising the protective effect of vaccines.
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So on the one hand, there is a tendency for every death with Covid to be labeled by Covid, but on the other hand, there is a tendency to label every vaccinated breakthrough death as "advanced disease with Covid". Does that sound about right? I think it does.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
You still don't know how a virus leaves the body in exhaled breath?

It's not like it hasn't been explained. Why would you still be making this same claim after all this time.
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Some of it is in droplets, some of it is aerosolized. Regardless, the results of the study are clear - surgical masks are useless at preventing infection. Since we know cloth masks are far less effective than even the weakest ASTM level 1 surgical masks, we can infer that cloth masks are less than useless at preventing infection, even though they may theoretically stop some droplets.
 
W.D.Clinger said:
Tippit is not just fitter, stronger, healthier, and faster than anyone else. He also believes he is more credible.
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Credibility is a funny thing. I may not have credibility here, per se, but that is less a function of my own credibility, and more a function of pseudo-skeptics inability to believe anything other than their narrative. What I do have, is integrity, and that is independent of what you, or anyone else believes.
 
Tippit said:
The premise of your question is ridiculous, because different vaccines work differently. Smallpox vaccine infects the host to elicit an immune response, but it's not a severe infection because it's been attenuated - in other words, nothing like what I just described about the mRNA "vaccines", which, by the way are leaky and non-sterilizing, unlike the smallpox vaccine.
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Not all the Covid vaccines are mRNA, yet you still base your arguments on the assumption that they are.
 
Childlike Empress said:
For the dimwits who still claim that the mRNA fake "vaccines" aren't gene therapy, take it from the CEO of Bayer (who own Monsanto): https://youtu.be/OJFKBritLlc?t=5844
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1. No, they aren't: this is yet another example of dishonesty from conspiracy theorists.
https://www.antifake.ro/fact-checki...-not-gene-therapy-and-do-not-alter-human-dna/

2. Would you believe the CEO of Bayer? I'm assuming you wouldn't, so why try to quote him as evidence for something you believe?
 
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