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Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

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michaelsuede said:
As another anecdote, my co-worker's college age daughter just got the vaccine and ended up in the ICU after a pulmonary embolism and tachycardia.
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My cousin in Trinidad won’t get the vaccine cuz his friend got it & became impotent. His testicles became swollen. His friend was weeks away from getting married, now the girl called off the wedding. So just pray on it & make sure you’re comfortable with ur decision, not bullied
 
Carrot Flower King said:
Aaaaah, another Kirsch "story"...

Claiming that no-one else is speaking out for fear of being fired...
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That's just as plausible a claim as when it's made by flat earthers and Apollo deniers.

"Remember, we have to threaten literally millions of people all over the world into silence, but we have to remain completely hidden while doing it."
 
carlitos said:
My cousin in Trinidad won’t get the vaccine cuz his friend got it & became impotent. His testicles became swollen. His friend was weeks away from getting married, now the girl called off the wedding. So just pray on it & make sure you’re comfortable with ur decision, not bullied
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My friend's aunt's dog groomer knows a guy who worked with a guy who got his second Pfizer shot and his penis shot off and flew around the room like a rocket before exploding.
 
sts60 said:
My sister is getting dragged back into a three-month rotation on a Covid floor, after doing case management for a long time, and that after a long career in the ER and other direct patient care settings.

Thanks a lot, anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers. And by “thanks”, I mean go **** yourselves.
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Large RCT says masks don't work:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7707213/

Meta says masks don't work:
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

RCT says cloth masks increase risk of respiratory infection:
https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577

Several more studies all saying masks don't work:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19216002/
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1342
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20092668/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22188875/
https://www.cmaj.ca/content/188/8/567
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29140516/

Looking at the box label warnings on any box of surgical masks, it explicitly tells you it doesn't work for COVID.
https://cdn.thetruthaboutcancer.com/wp-content/uploads/20200529154320/Warning-Mask.jpg

Latest research indicates COVID is spread via aerosol transmission; which masks, other than proper respirators, do nothing to stop.
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab691/6343417?login=false

Latest data indicates most new ICU patients are fully vaccinated. For the most part, people who have refused vaccination are not in high risk categories for COVID.
 
Carrot Flower King said:
Aaaaah, another Kirsch "story"...

Claiming that no-one else is speaking out for fear of being fired...

So, we'll be seeing Buettner fired pretty sharply then, won't we?

More claims and no supporting evidence, which is pretty usual for Kirsch.
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She was fired, which you would know if you listened to what she had to say. I hope you vaccinate your kids. Kids are at great risk from COVID.
 
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bruto said:
I would have thought that although it might be produced by a GMO, a spike protein, having a distinct paucity of genes itself, would struggle to qualify.
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The modification occurred in the RNA that codes the protein. The protein isn’t the same as the protein coded by the virus that exists in the wild, as a result of the tampering with the RNA.

In addition the adenoviral vector vaccines are GMO as well, they use a genetically modified and deactivated pseudovirus to deliver a DNA payload which itself instructs cells to code modified spike proteins that don’t exist in nature.

The epitopes are similar enough that they produce antibodies, but how effective they are against different variants isn’t clear.

There are also a lot of toxic proteins that exist in nature which can produce different types of illness, from acute poisonings to causing cancers down the road. The modifications to the spike protein are presumed to be beneficial, but I don’t believe anyone really knows, because the long term hasn’t arrived yet. The intermediate term hasn’t even arrived yet.


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sts60 said:
My sister is getting dragged back into a three-month rotation on a Covid floor, after doing case management for a long time, and that after a long career in the ER and other direct patient care settings.

Thanks a lot, anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers. And by “thanks”, I mean go **** yourselves.
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Thanks for the totalitarian mandates that forced needed healthcare workers who weren’t interested in getting jabbed to be fired, vastly increasing the workload for the ones who are left. And by thanks, I mean go **** yourselves.


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DetectedMotion said:
I was trying to find out if anybody has been documenting an all-cause mortality rate from the vaccines because, over time, there will be a need to know what effect the vaccines will have on the human body.
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The mortality statistics categorize anyone triple jabbed but who has had their fourth booster within two weeks as “unvaccinated” in some countries, which means that the causes of death listed in the mortality statistics cannot be relied upon. Bad data is bad.


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https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html
A large, randomized trial led by researchers at Stanford Medicine and Yale University has found that wearing a surgical face mask over the mouth and nose is an effective way to reduce the occurrence of COVID-19 in community settings.

It also showed that relatively low-cost, targeted interventions to promote mask-wearing can significantly increase the use of face coverings in rural, low-income countries. Based on the results, the interventional model is being scaled up to reach tens of millions of people in Southeast Asia and Latin America over the next few months.
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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/masking-science-sars-cov2.html
when people cough, sneeze, sing, talk, or breathe. CDC recommends community use of masks to prevent transmission of SARS-CoV-2. Masks are primarily intended to reduce the emission of virus-laden droplets by the wearer (“source control”), which is especially relevant for asymptomatic or presymptomatic infected wearers who feel well and may be unaware of their infectiousness to others (estimated to account for more than 50% of SARS-CoV-2 transmissions).1, 2 Masks also help reduce inhalation of these droplets by the wearer (“filtration for wearer protection”). The community benefit of masking for SARS-CoV-2 control is due to the combination of these two effects (source control and filtration for wearer protection); individual prevention benefit increases with increasing numbers of people using masks consistently and correctly.
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https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210907/masks-limit-covid-spread-study
Bangladesh shows that masks reduce community spread of COVID-19. It also shows that surgical masks are more effective than cloth face coverings.

The study demonstrates the power of careful investigation and offers a host of lessons about mask wearing that will be important worldwide. One key finding of the study, for example, is that wearing a mask doesn't lead people to abandon social distancing, something public health officials had feared might happen if masks gave people a false sense of security.

"What we really were able to achieve is to demonstrate that masks are effective against COVID-19, even under a rigorous and systematic evaluation that was done in the throes of the pandemic," said Ashley Styczynski, MD, who was an infectious disease fellow at Stanford University when she collaborated on the study with other colleagues at Stanford, Yale, and Innovations for Poverty Action (IPA), a large research and policy nonprofit organization that currently works in 22 countries.

"And so, I think people who have been holding out on wearing masks because [they] felt like there wasn't enough evidence for it, we're hoping this will really help bridge that gap for them," she said.
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https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavir...-scientific-studies-that-explain-why-they-do/
Since the beginning of the historic COVID-19 pandemic, one of the most hotly debated subjects has been about masks and whether they actually help slow the spread of the disease. Now, as omicron cuts its way across the globe, the question is back on people’s minds.

At the onset of the pandemic, there was slim evidence to either prove or disprove the effectiveness of mask-wearing to slow the spread of this particular coronavirus because, obviously, COVID-19 was a new disease. Additionally, there was little research focusing on respiratory disease transmission during a global pandemic of COVID-19’s magnitude — a once-in-a-lifetime worldwide disaster. Naturally, there was little data to go on about the efficacy of mask-wearing during these exact circumstances.

This lack of information was perhaps confusing for many but millions in the scientific community quickly jumped to help the world understand this disease better. They built upon years of existing data on coronaviruses and communicable diseases. While researchers of all 49 studies listed below acknowledge there’s still much more data to be explored, they have all acknowledged the efficacy of mask-wearing to some degree at slowing the spread of COVID-19.
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Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
 
carlitos said:
My cousin in Trinidad won’t get the vaccine cuz his friend got it & became impotent. His testicles became swollen. His friend was weeks away from getting married, now the girl called off the wedding. So just pray on it & make sure you’re comfortable with ur decision, not bullied
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Foster Zygote said:
My friend's aunt's dog groomer knows a guy who worked with a guy who got his second Pfizer shot and his penis shot off and flew around the room like a rocket before exploding.
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I am triple vaxed and the jewels are better than ever! So claims my wife.

I personally recommend COVID vax for any guy who wants to impress the ladies.
 
Steve said:
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Misinformation from "big medicine" in order to further their secret agenda!!!
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Yeah, I don't expect to change disinformationist's minds. Or even make a dent in their cement-headed epistomologies.
 
Carrot Flower King said:
Aaaaah, another Kirsch "story"...

Claiming that no-one else is speaking out for fear of being fired...

So, we'll be seeing Buettner fired pretty sharply then, won't we?

More claims and no supporting evidence, which is pretty usual for Kirsch.
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If you actually watched the interview, you would have seen that she was fired.


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Resume said:
https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/masking-science-sars-cov2.html

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210907/masks-limit-covid-spread-study

https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavir...-scientific-studies-that-explain-why-they-do/

Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
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Those sources are pretty much garbage. The Stanford study was an RCT on the promotion of face masks, not an actual trial. All the epidemiology on it is junk science.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that respiratory viruses like COVID, flu, the common cold, etc.. which spread through aerosols are not stopped by a mask.

Ask anyone who lives in a northern latitude what happens when they breathe through a facemask or scarf in winter.

Masks are purely being pushed as a method of social control and virtue signaling. They offer no protection. They are a visible display of unity with other mass formation adherents, further reinforcing the collective.
 
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