I'm in no way saying anything good about these racist killers, but I think there is a legitimate argument to be made that they should be eligible for parole. Their first hearing wouldn't be for 30 years, and even then they only get a hearing; they don't necessarily get out. Charlie Manson had a parole hearing every couple years, but he died in his cell. As a prison management issue, inmates behave better if they are trying to earn parole vs. knowing they have no hope. I'd also like to believe that most human beings (yeah, not all) are capable of redeeming themselves.
Cont: Jogging in Georgia while black - The Trial
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plague311
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I am not by any means defending what she said or why...BUT...according to her (from what I remember) it was to combat the idea that Arbery was an avid runner. In that avid runners have to take religious care of their feet and toenails because of the stress the foot endures. So how can Arbery be an avid runner if he didn't even care for his feet in the slightest?
"How fast can he run" was always a pointless red hearing.
And she didn't present it as some sort of counter-argument to some "runner narrative" from the prosecution that she entered into evidence and was using to make a factual point, it was just some off hand insult to the dead she throw out during closing arguments.
If she had said during the back and forth of the actual trail "Oh if Mr. Arbury was such an avid running then why did his nails look like this?" into some direct argument from the prosecution, that would have been one thing, this was nothing like that.
And she didn't present it as some sort of counter-argument to some "runner narrative" from the prosecution that she entered into evidence and was using to make a factual point, it was just some off hand insult to the dead she throw out during closing arguments.
If she had said during the back and forth of the actual trail "Oh if Mr. Arbury was such an avid running then why did his nails look like this?" into some direct argument from the prosecution, that would have been one thing, this was nothing like that.
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Who says the defense claim is even true? And if it is, so what? Maybe he's a casual runner instead of an avid runner. Maybe he never got the memo about foot care. Surely (alleged) poor hygiene isn't grounds for murder.
smartcooky
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The worst thing is, this isn't even true. Not all avid runners have their toenails manicured!
Thermal
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Well...yeah, of course. Your worth and value as a human being is measured by your pedicurial vanity. Where you been?
According to the mom, his foot hygiene was indeed questionable:
I'm not sure I believe he was just "out for a jog" that day. But, I'm certain they had no grounds to kill him.
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plague311
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On top of that they wouldn't have even known. He wasn't running barefoot.
IIRC the defense got the toenail thing from the autopsy, it's nothing that would have come up to anyone on the initial scene or anything like that.
And "Long" is a relative term would could many anything from "not neatly trimmed" to actually long in any meaningful sense. "Dirty" is just straight up well poisoning.
And "Long" is a relative term would could many anything from "not neatly trimmed" to actually long in any meaningful sense. "Dirty" is just straight up well poisoning.
Thermal
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Hey, the only reason Gaige Grosskreutz was spared was due to his meticulous manscaping.
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A good speaker.
Prosecution is requesting an additional rider on the sentences to prevent the 3 from making any money off of a book, movie, social media, TV, etc deal.
Judge says he will consider it and make a ruling later.
Judge says he will consider it and make a ruling later.
plague311
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I would assume he'll apply it.
That's the way I read it, he just came across as he wanting it in writing and he wanted time to cross-reference some already established laws against that sort of thing that are already on the books. It sorta did sound like it was gonna happen.