The Biden Presidency

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“Biden’s lost his marbles! You wait and see next time he talks!”
“Okay, here he is doing a press conference. He seems okay to me.”
“They gave him BRAIN DRUGs!!!1!”
 
Nope. If your guy isn't 100% perfect then you have no business complaining about their guy, who is definitely about 0% perfect.

Also if your guy has standards and doesn't live up to my strawman version of them 100% of the time, he's a hypocrite, while my guy who has absolutely no standards isn't, therefore my guy is better.
 
You realise that Trump is just about as old and ten time as incoherent as Biden on his worst day, right? I mean, you do realise that you are being dishonest, don't you?

What do you mean? Trump is the most coherent speaker ever. Here's a classic example:

A Very Stable Genius said:
I have broken more Elton John records. He seems to have a lot of records. And I, by the way, I don’t have a musical instrument. I don’t have a guitar or an organ. No organ. Elton has an organ. And lots of other people helping. No, we’ve broken a lot of records. We’ve broken virtually every record. Because you know, look, I only need this space. They need much more room. For basketball, for hockey and all of the sports, they need a lot of room. We don’t need it. We have people in that space. So we break all of these records. Really, we do it without, like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical – the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth, right? The brain. More important than the mouth is the brain. The brain is much more important.
 
What do you mean? Trump is the most coherent speaker ever. Here's a classic example:

Well, he has clearly imparted the knowledge that he doesn't have a musical instrument. Maybe his whole life has been revenge for not getting the piano. lessons he begged for as a child.
 
I've said before that when (some) people spoke of Trump, non-ironically, as a good speaker they weren't saying exactly what we thought they were saying.

The one thing, the one thing Trump gets about America in that shriveled, deformed, and misplaced third testicle that passes for his brain is that there was an unspoken, untalked about, desire among a lot of Americans to have someone, anyone, just talk to them in some language that wasn't political doublespeak, focus grouped B.S. There was a chunk of American essentially someone, anyone "Lie to me, insult me, just don't be a pussy. Don't talk the thing you said the second it polls poorly with a focus group. Be wrong, but be sure of yourself."

It's how Trump could stand in front of a crowd in Iowa, call them idiots, and win the state in a landslide while Hillary could stand up, lay a perfectly well thought out plan to get West Virginia off of coal as it's sole major industry, and someone do worst in West Virginia then Trump did with Mexicans after calling them rapists and killers.

Several political commentators have tried to make sense out of how it is possible for someone who provably and objectively lies with the consistency, frequency, and vigor that Trump does is so often heralded as his supporters as "being honest" or "genuine" or "keeping it real."

The best explanation for this is that "being honest" and all those other ways of phrasing it are actually trying to say I think is what many of them are trying to say is something slightly but importantly different.

Listen to any mainstream politician talk. Do you ever within a rounding error hear a politician speak in a public setting that wasn't the most inhuman, inauthentic, sound-bite ready, pre-prepared statement ever? A politician can't say hello to a baby without you just hearing the dozen of focus groups it was run through, the edges sanded off by multiple speech writers, the tone and context sifted through again and again.

And when they are done and finally speaking it sounds good, it sounds right, it sounds correct, it sounds beautiful, hell it even sounds honest for certain meanings of honest. What it doesn't sound like is authentic. Human. Off-the-cuff. Unprepared. Unfiltered.

When you work that hard to make sure you saying something the "right way" it never feel natural.

And I do think on some level people have been desperate for this authenticity. Politicians, even the ones we like, have felt so fake and phony for so long that when someone came along with LITERALLY NO FILTER people did gravitate to him.
 
Not to mention Trump has one canned speech. He repeats it over and over, sometimes all of it, sometimes part of it. And he has a repeating schtick that he uses over and over and over and over.

People with dementia do that. Classic sign.
 
I've said before that when (some) people spoke of Trump, non-ironically, as a good speaker they weren't saying exactly what we thought they were saying.

The one thing, the one thing Trump gets about America in that shriveled, deformed, and misplaced third testicle that passes for his brain is that there was an unspoken, untalked about, desire among a lot of Americans to have someone, anyone, just talk to them in some language that wasn't political doublespeak, focus grouped B.S. There was a chunk of American essentially someone, anyone "Lie to me, insult me, just don't be a pussy. Don't talk the thing you said the second it polls poorly with a focus group. Be wrong, but be sure of yourself."

It's how Trump could stand in front of a crowd in Iowa, call them idiots, and win the state in a landslide while Hillary could stand up, lay a perfectly well thought out plan to get West Virginia off of coal as it's sole major industry, and someone do worst in West Virginia then Trump did with Mexicans after calling them rapists and killers.

Several political commentators have tried to make sense out of how it is possible for someone who provably and objectively lies with the consistency, frequency, and vigor that Trump does is so often heralded as his supporters as "being honest" or "genuine" or "keeping it real."

The best explanation for this is that "being honest" and all those other ways of phrasing it are actually trying to say I think is what many of them are trying to say is something slightly but importantly different.

Listen to any mainstream politician talk. Do you ever within a rounding error hear a politician speak in a public setting that wasn't the most inhuman, inauthentic, sound-bite ready, pre-prepared statement ever? A politician can't say hello to a baby without you just hearing the dozen of focus groups it was run through, the edges sanded off by multiple speech writers, the tone and context sifted through again and again.

And when they are done and finally speaking it sounds good, it sounds right, it sounds correct, it sounds beautiful, hell it even sounds honest for certain meanings of honest. What it doesn't sound like is authentic. Human. Off-the-cuff. Unprepared. Unfiltered.

When you work that hard to make sure you saying something the "right way" it never feel natural.

And I do think on some level people have been desperate for this authenticity. Politicians, even the ones we like, have felt so fake and phony for so long that when someone came along with LITERALLY NO FILTER people did gravitate to him.

I agree. I wasn't as much what Trump said, but how he said it. You could tell he was just winging it. He just opened his mouth and whatever entered his pea brain, poured out. That it was usually lies, nasty, insulting and/or just idiotic didn't matter as long as it matched the tone of what his audience wanted to hear: feed their grievances with fear and justifying their hatred and bigotry.
 
“Biden’s lost his marbles! You wait and see next time he talks!”
“Okay, here he is doing a press conference. He seems okay to me.”
“They gave him BRAIN DRUGs!!!1!”

That would be silly, of course, but it's sillier than that, because the first time and the next time were, it seems, the same time. Only in the minds of the disciples of a stable genius can a person be simultaneously competent and incompetent and blameworthy for both.
 
The man is truly in dementia and you people who voted for him can't accept that and are in total denial.

As someone who has had the pain, the anguish and the misfortune have to deal directly with a parent slipping into senile dementia (interactions and care) I can assure you that you have ABSOLUTELY NO ******* IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!
 
I've said before that when (some) people spoke of Trump, non-ironically, as a good speaker they weren't saying exactly what we thought they were saying.

The one thing, the one thing Trump gets about America in that shriveled, deformed, and misplaced third testicle that passes for his brain is that there was an unspoken, untalked about, desire among a lot of Americans to have someone, anyone, just talk to them in some language that wasn't political doublespeak, focus grouped B.S. There was a chunk of American essentially someone, anyone "Lie to me, insult me, just don't be a pussy. Don't talk the thing you said the second it polls poorly with a focus group. Be wrong, but be sure of yourself."

It's how Trump could stand in front of a crowd in Iowa, call them idiots, and win the state in a landslide while Hillary could stand up, lay a perfectly well thought out plan to get West Virginia off of coal as it's sole major industry, and someone do worst in West Virginia then Trump did with Mexicans after calling them rapists and killers.

Several political commentators have tried to make sense out of how it is possible for someone who provably and objectively lies with the consistency, frequency, and vigor that Trump does is so often heralded as his supporters as "being honest" or "genuine" or "keeping it real."

The best explanation for this is that "being honest" and all those other ways of phrasing it are actually trying to say I think is what many of them are trying to say is something slightly but importantly different.

Listen to any mainstream politician talk. Do you ever within a rounding error hear a politician speak in a public setting that wasn't the most inhuman, inauthentic, sound-bite ready, pre-prepared statement ever? A politician can't say hello to a baby without you just hearing the dozen of focus groups it was run through, the edges sanded off by multiple speech writers, the tone and context sifted through again and again.

And when they are done and finally speaking it sounds good, it sounds right, it sounds correct, it sounds beautiful, hell it even sounds honest for certain meanings of honest. What it doesn't sound like is authentic. Human. Off-the-cuff. Unprepared. Unfiltered.

When you work that hard to make sure you saying something the "right way" it never feel natural.

And I do think on some level people have been desperate for this authenticity. Politicians, even the ones we like, have felt so fake and phony for so long that when someone came along with LITERALLY NO FILTER people did gravitate to him.


As someone wiser than me* said, "Way too many Americans want a strong daddy figure to make all the scary monsters go away, and for some incomprehensible reason they have decided that's Trump. He's a poor man's idea of a rich man, a stupid man's idea of a smart man, and a weak man's idea of a strong man."

*jfb from Apollohoax.net
 
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As someone wiser than me* said, "Way too many Americans want a strong daddy figure to make all the scary monsters go away, and for some incomprehensible reason they have decided that's Trump. He's a poor man's idea of a rich man, a stupid man's idea of a smart man, and a weak man's idea of a strong man."

*jfb from Apollohoax.net

Agreed, and the highlighted part is a huge neon sign pointing to authoritarian rule.
 
As someone wiser than me* said, "Way too many Americans want a strong daddy figure to make all the scary monsters go away, and for some incomprehensible reason they have decided that's Trump. He's a poor man's idea of a rich man, a stupid man's idea of a smart man, and a weak man's idea of a strong man."

*jfb from Apollohoax.net

DING, DING, DING, DING, DING!! We've seen some classic examples of this and yet we keep getting told that we shouldn't use the 'stupid' word when describing the Trump base because it alienates them. Yes, the truth can hurt really piss people off.
 
Modern medications work wonders .

While it is true that we have some wonderful medications for all sorts of diseases, we do not have drugs that counter or perk up sufferers of Dementia.

How do I know this? I work with these people every day and if such a drug was available we would be using it to help them. Instead, we have to employ many other techniques that merely make their lives more comfortable. (it's a whole four+ training sessions so I'm not going to go into it here.)

I can also say that from what I have to see Biden is not suffering any form of mental deterioration outside that caused by standard aging. In fact, if I was to put money on it, Trump showed way more symptoms than Biden ever has.

Those I work with on a daily basis suffer from mere memory loss to full-blown D3 level dementia (we can't deal with D4 & 5 where I work) and so I think I am in a pretty good position to compare what I see with those I work with and the actions of both Biden and Trump, and again, of the two, Trump's behaviour and vocabulary is the far more concerning of the two, though in saying that I don't think that he would be considered to be impaired at this point either.
 
Remember when Biden kept arguing with & attacking the people at his campaign events? It looked simply dysfunctional at the time, but with the last few posts' reminders of Trump's behavior, plus the fact that Biden quit acting that way, I wonder if that was a misguided attempt to move in on Trump's behavioral territory.

Another thing the latest round of Trump posts (in a Biden thread :rolleyes: ) reminds me of is how baffled Trump critics were that anybody could listen to his whining about everybody being against him and think "that's a manly man". The explanation that most of them never figured out was that, when one is attacked from all sides, just calling out one's opponents on their bad behavior is bolder than the perceived alternative, when the perceived alternative is simply cowering & hiding in silence against the attacks. Exactly what form the objection should take is just a secondary detail to the important point, which is to stand up to it in some way at all.
 
It's hard to tell with Trump. He was one of the weirdest people I've ever seen. The way he stood, the way he talked, the phrases he used, it was all so unlike any other person I've ever seen.

He was also incredibly sheltered and pampered and had few, if any, qualities that I would describe as manly. He was cowardly, dishonest, greedy, lazy, and I can only assume physically weak.
 
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