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Cont: 2020 Presidential Election part 3

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dirtywick said:
I would describe their behavior as treasonous. Anyone trying to overturn the rightful winner of a democratic election in bad faith is a traitor to the US.

The real shame is there isn’t a way to hold them accountable
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Trump suggested a solution based on one of the Amendments to the Constitutions.
 
dirtywick said:
I would describe their behavior as treasonous. Anyone trying to overturn the rightful winner of a democratic election in bad faith is a traitor to the US.

The real shame is there isn’t a way to hold them accountable
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More like sedition than treason.
 
dirtywick said:
I would describe their behavior as treasonous. Anyone trying to overturn the rightful winner of a democratic election in bad faith is a traitor to the US.

The real shame is there isn’t a way to hold them accountable
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It's not treasonous by consitutional standards even though it can rightly be called a betrayal of democratic norms.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Donald, Rudy and Sidney fully expect the Election Officials and Judges to do what is in the interest of The President, or at least their Party's interest instead of the law.
They are literally privileged, in that they think that there should be a private law for them, and the "common law" for everyone else.
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No, Trump knows full well he isn't going to change the election outcome. He might have believed the outcome would change for the first week or so. He probably was in denial for a while given he saw winning numbers on election night that slowly shifted to a Biden win.

But recently he told at least one person who leaked it to CNN that it was all about revenge now. I posted about this in the Coup thread.
 
angrysoba said:
It's not treasonous by consitutional standards even though it can rightly be called a betrayal of democratic norms.
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I’d call it treason by the definition of the word treason. The constitutional definition is weirdly narrow
 
dirtywick said:
I’d call it treason by the definition of the word treason. The constitutional definition is weirdly narrow
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What is your definition of treason, that is distinct from sedition? When people use it in a manner other than the constitutional definition, they usually mean sedition in the end.
 
Stacyhs said:
....and laughing its arse off at us. Well, part of it's laughing its arse off while another part is watching with dismay at how far we've fallen while watching Putin with a wary eye.
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To be honest watching the US over the past couple of years has been something of an antidote to the problems here in the UK.

"Well at least it's not as bad as America yet"

Trouble is, that's no longer true. You guys had an election and booted the crazy out. It's mildly amusing watching all of the desperate flailing, but it'll end soon and then you get grown ups running the show again.

That's not an option in the UK. We had an election and the crazy won a huge majority, mostly based on the back of people "voting for change" by choosing the same crowd that had already been in power for the past decade. :confused:

So in 2 weeks time I am moving with the missus to Germany, where I am very much looking forward to not caring about politics at all again, and I can point and laugh at how terrible the UK govt. is from a safe distance.

I mean in the general scheme of things, the rise of right wing populist nutjobs is just a ripple in the fabric of society. It'll pass (populists tend to get elected on single issues and usually are inept at actual governing so never last all that long) but when an actual real world crisis hits like a global pandemic, I do wish there were competent people running things.

Not to mention that at least Covid-19 is a short lived problem. The real issue we need to deal with is climate change, and I am not at all confident about our ability to get on top of that.
 
turingtest said:
Donald Trump started campaigning for re-election in 2020 the minute he won the election of 2016; judging by this, he'll continue to campaign for re-election in 2020 until at least 2024; he'll never stop campaigning,
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Going to be hard for him to campaign from inside of a jail cell.
 
Trump Tweets

Thanks Mark. It’s all a continuation of the never ending Witch Hunt. Judge Brann, who would not even allow us to present our case or evidence, is a product of Senator Pat “No Tariffs” Toomey of Pennsylvania, no friend of mine, & Obama - No wonder. 900,000 Fraudulent Votes!
WILL APPEAL!
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Mark R. Levin
@marklevinshow
This is how Wikipedia added to Judge Brann's biography on its page just now: "He became briefly famous when he presided over a case which was part of President Trump's attempt to steal Pennsylvania's presidential electors."
 
dirtywick said:
I’d call it treason by the definition of the word treason. The constitutional definition is weirdly narrow
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I prefer that to overly broad. Anyone can see how a broad definition could be easily abused.

“You’re a Socialist!?! That’s treason by the definition of treason! String him up!”
 
acbytesla said:
I keep wondering what investigators is he referring to?



The FBI? No

CISA? No.

Any State Police? No.



Makes you go hmmmm.
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You forget he's got that crack team of investigators that in 2 weeks time will be revealing the truth behind Obama's fake birth certificate. Or was it that team of investigators on crack?

ETA: Ninja'd so much I'll never walk again.
 
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Aridas said:
Of minor note, something like this action by Bill Pascrall, Jr, provided that it had effect, could potentially serve as some of the beginning for rectification of the problem.







Not going to hold my breath on it, but a mass disbarment for those saboteurs would be some concrete action.
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Probably won't get very far. Quite a few the various transcripts of hearings and the actual paperwork - apart from mascara man's - are very different to Trump's claims. Often the plaintiff side will make it clear they are not a putting an argument forward about electoral fraud. The complaints are usually about claims that processes weren't followed, that the officials misinterpreted the legislation and so on.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Retweeted

Kimberley Strassel
@KimStrassel
Credit to Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito for delivering a forceful repudiation of recent political efforts to intimidate American courts. https://wsj.com/articles/alito-defends-the-courts-11605309587 via
@WSJ

My latest: The fix was in long before any of the vote counters got started. https://wsj.com/articles/harvesting-the-2020-election-11605221974 via
@WSJ
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Mitch McConnell: "It's almost like Democrat's Trump's purpose here is not promoting integrity, but rather preserving the chaos that makes close elections ripe targets for their DC lawyers to contest."
 
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