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2020 Presidential Election part 2

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Safe-Keeper said:
There was an upsurge in Trump supporter activity here for a time while the election looked shaky. Now it's all crickets. It was like this after the midterms, too.

Which is actually promising, in a way. If a large enough part of Trump's appeal was how he made his followers feel, like they were part of this big, powerful wrecking ball of a movement to bring down the establishment and terrify the liberal elite, he might lose a heck of a lot of his pull on them when he has lost the election, especially when he has to leave office in January.
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This one was a bit amuisng in that she would post hings like "Trump is leading Biden in Podunk Plains" as proof Biden was losing.
At one point she said it was mathmatically impossible for Biden to Win Wisconsin....
I can see the Trumpers spltting between those who turn on him for being a loser and those who buy into the "He wuz robbed" theory.
 
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eerok said:
Once the west is all counted, I expect it'll be a lot higher for Biden. I'm curious what the record is for total popular vote in the US.
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The most moves VOTES a candidate ever received was Obama in 2008 with 69,498,516. I expect Biden to be at around 74-75 million when this is over. Cali has a lot left to count apparently.

Highest turnout by percent of voting age Americans was 62.8% in 1960, unless you go back to before universal suffrage then it was 81.8% in 1876 (counting men only).

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gregthehammer said:
I can only speak for myself, but I'm voting for the person to DO A JOB. basically, American voters are HR and we are deciding who to give a job to. With that in mind, it would be a bit weird for me to start wearing hats and Tshirts, and waving flags with the image or name of my employee.
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To me, it's sort of like the über-Christian who wears a t-shirt proclaiming how Saved! he is or something. It's advertising; the question is what's being advertised. Nobody who isn't already a Christian is going to say "oh, ok, John 3:16- tell me more," because, in god-soaked America, everyone already knows; and nobody who isn't already a Trumpist is going to be sold on Trump by a MAGA hat or flag. So the advertisement, in either case, isn't to sell the product, it's to proclaim the buyer- basically virtue-signaling.
 
pgwenthold said:
Remember the 3 reasons provided by the framers for the Electoral College:

1) The general population may not know enough about the candidates to make an informed decision
2) Even if they have enough information, the general population is not sufficiently wise to be able to make a good decision (seriously, that's why you were supposed to elect someone smarter than you to cast your vote)
3) The voting population of the slave states way smaller than the number of citizens, and so their votes wouldn't matter as much (remember, congressional representation was based on the 3/5 rule, so they got a lot more electoral votes).

I'm not joking, these are the original reasons for the electoral college.

The only one that depended on state's representation is #3, which was solved by giving all citizens the right to vote.

ETA: Always remember, the only "state's rights" the slave states cared about was the right to own slaves
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You're right, but I was addressing the reason currently given for maintaining the Electoral system.
 
lobosrul5 said:
The most moves a candidate ever received was Obama in 2008 with 69,498,516. I expect Biden to be at around 74-75 million when this is over. Cali has a lot left to count apparently.

Highest turnout by percent of voting age Americans was 62.8% in 1960, unless you go back to before universal suffrage then it was 81.8% in 1876 (counting men only).
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Obama's got the moves, alright.

 
lobosrul5 said:
The most moves a candidate ever received was Obama in 2008 with 69,498,516. I expect Biden to be at around 74-75 million when this is over. Cali has a lot left to count apparently.

Highest turnout by percent of voting age Americans was 62.8% in 1960, unless you go back to before universal suffrage then it was 81.8% in 1876 (counting men only).
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Yeah, I thought that this election was breaking records. It's quite a thing.
 
People are already speculating that Trump will give state secrets to Mother Russia. Dumb liberals. He's going to SELL them.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
There was an upsurge in Trump supporter activity here for a time while the election looked shaky. Now it's all crickets. It was like this after the midterms, too.

Which is actually promising, in a way. If a large enough part of Trump's appeal was how he made his followers feel, like they were part of this big, powerful wrecking ball of a movement to bring down the establishment and terrify the liberal elite, he might lose a heck of a lot of his pull on them when he has lost the election, especially when he has to leave office in January.
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Yep, if he loses election, he won't be ever back in any serious capacity. They will find new fuhrer to worship, though.
 
Pennsylvania: OK, if there are now only another 200K left to count and assuming Biden continues getting 73.89% (which has now slowed down somewhat but lets look for a 'best case'). Add that on to his total as of that point of 3,142,463 (Trump: 3,240,387) then Biden could potentially get a further147,780 giving him a total of 3,290,227, whilst Trump gets another 52,220, giving him a total of 3,292,607. The maths says Trump wins by 2,380, which is less than 1% of the margin, so could go to recount.

However, looks like it's Trump there. HOWEVER, I have assumed another 200K to be counted as of that point, when if the real figure is significantly more, you can see that the result could be be extremely close, if Biden keeps up his strong presence in absentee vote.

ETA: Secretary of State says 326k votes still need to be counted in the battleground state. Trump leads by 90k votes. That means an apx extra 247K on the above figures for Biden (factoring the further 7K gain) giving him at best 3,389,463, with Trump ith an extra apx 85K, giving him a total of circa 3,325,506, so Biden could win by anything up to 64K (unlikely) but if he can keep getting two thirds share of the absentee vote he might just do it.

If Biden only managed 66% of the remaining vote (some say he only needs 54% but that was earlier in the day) then he could end up with a minimum of 3,364,623 to Trump's (33%) 3,347,967 so anything between 16,600 to as much as 64,000, mid point being 40,300 win to Biden.
 
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Vixen said:
Pennsylvania: OK, if there are now only another 200K left to count and assuming Biden continues getting 73.89% (which has now slowed down somewhat but lets look for a 'best case'). Add that on to his total as of that point of 3,142,463 (Trump: 3,240,387) then Biden could potentially get a further147,780 giving him a total of 3,290,227, whilst Trump gets another 52,220, giving him a total of 3,292,607. The maths says Trump wins by 2,380, which is less than 1% of the margin, so could go to recount.

However, looks like it's Trump there. HOWEVER, I have assumed another 200K to be counted as of that point, when if the real figure is significantly more, you can see that the result could be be extremely close, if Biden keeps up his strong presence in absentee vote.
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You know, there is a fine line between cheering someone up and giving them false hopes that will be dashed upon jagged rocks.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Retweeted

Eric Trump
@EricTrump
The amount of FRAUD being reported in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, Georgia and Wisconsin is unreal. Please report personal experiences. Please have all facts and evidence. #StopTheSteal
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I suspect that many Trump supporters are not used to backing up claims with facts and evidence. Like Trump himself they tend to go with their gut feelings.
 
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