Bill Barr and his October Surprise

shuttlt said:
This has nothing to do with Brietbart or the others. I Googled it. It's the local computer repair shop. You wrote a post about how wildly improbably it was that he would go to this random repair shop thousands of miles away from anywhere he would reasonably be. I looked up where Joe Biden lives, looked up where the repair shop is and it's just down the road from Joe's house.
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It's Delaware, it's a small state. But it's still not the state Hunter Biden lived in at the time. What, you think Hunter stays at Dad's house when he goes to Delaware?

You're still trying very hard to find some way to accept this extremely improbable story when even those telling the story can't keep their story straight. Why?
 
shuttlt said:
What's the objection to true facts here? JoeMorgue was repeating claims that there was no reason for him to fly all the way across the country to drop the laptop off at a random repair shop. I am correcting him, that it is the repair shop local to Hunter's dad.
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FWIW, I thought you were making a funny by saying it was 10 minutes away from JoeMorgue's house.
 
shuttlt said:
What's the objection to true facts here? JoeMorgue was repeating claims that there was no reason for him to fly all the way across the country to drop the laptop off at a random repair shop. I am correcting him, that it is the repair shop local to Hunter's dad.
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... and also local to Hunter, with a margin of error of 2500 miles or so.
 
shuttlt said:
What's the objection to true facts here? JoeMorgue was repeating claims that there was no reason for him to fly all the way across the country to drop the laptop off at a random repair shop. I am correcting him, that it is the repair shop local to Hunter's dad.
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It's not close to Hunter Biden's house, and it's not an authorized Apple repair shop, and the signatures don't match, and the repair shop guy has given 3 conflicting stories about who dropped the laptop off and what he did when it was dropped off.

But gullible people really really wanna buy this story...
 
Stacyhs said:
He hasn't been proved that Hunter has engaged in sex with a minor or that there actually are pornographic photos of him with a minor either. Or did I miss that announcement? Seems to me you've got him tried and convicted on nothing but the say so of Giuliani, Bannon, and reports that the FBI is investigating this as a possible misinformation campaign.
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You said Hunter should have the book thrown at him if it turns out that what you describe happened. I am pointing out that the FBI have sat on this for 10 months and haven't thrown the book at him. My post is predicated on your "IF". As I explained in another post. The story I refer to is the one that I expect Giuliani/Trump to push, not a claim about what actually happened or what 100 years from now history will have decided happened. I'm not assuming anybody's guilt here. In the final sentence I say "if" as well.

You are reading things into my posts that aren't there.

It seems like there are lots of people who could now prove Giuliani wrong if he's wrong here, but they aren't.

Giuliani is still promising the big reveal 10 days before the election. What ever happens here will be entertaining. Maybe that's what Joe is waiting for to implode Giuliani's house of cards?
 
dirtywick said:
It's just QAnon nonsense.
Giuliani gets a screenshot of an email from a "copy" of a hard drive, that he won't let anyone but a right wing tabloid examine by the way, from a guy who thinks he's going to get Seth Riched and tries to jam it into the national media for a week. When that doesn't work, oh by the way, there's child porn on it. So it gets turned into the FBI, who they claim already have the original.

It's ******* stupid and it's getting more stupid.
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QAnonsense?
 
timhau said:
I think that points to a certain conclusion that you seem to be reluctant to make.
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I'm not reluctant to make it. They could be for all I know. It's more that if the files on the laptop are somehow fake, then it raises all sorts of other questions. We are told by all of these reliable ex-FBI agents that the FBI knew that the Russians were trying to trick Trump into accepting disinformation about Biden. The FBI then find out about a specific attempt to inject disinformation into the election, and they don't tell Trump? Or they did tell Trump and Trump is lying? It's a mess. Trump is sticking his neck out and pushing the DoJ to explain themselves. They should. If the Trump campaign has been lying here, that is appalling. If the Biden family have been involved in what is alleged, that is appalling. If the FBI have sat on this and allowed it to play out, that is appalling.
 
Trump is still a **** president and human being.

Hunter Biden's escapades in Ukraine however many years ago with unsubstantiated claims three weeks before the election doesn't make Biden not a better choice than Trump.

The desperation of Trump's apologists is getting dangerous.
 
shuttlt said:
He doesn't seem to have had the book thrown at him though, does he? 10 months later and nothing. The story will be that this was covered up to protect Biden. Of course it will be a problem for Biden if this comes out.
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shuttlt said:
Except when he is visiting is parents, when it is only about 4 miles down the road.
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His presence in Delaware at the time or not, as mentioned several times, is very easy to establish. Cell phone record, credit cards, flight records, etc.
 
Stacyhs said:
His presence in Delaware at the time or not, as mentioned several times, is very easy to establish. Cell phone record, credit cards, flight records, etc.
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I agree. That's a different issue though to JoeMorgue's claims about how far away Hunter's house was from the the repair shop that is down the road from his dad's house.

I assume that the FBI already know whether Hunter's credit card was used, or he was in the area. That's the positive side of them having had the laptop for 10 months. If they don't, then we are back to it being appalling.
 
Venom said:
Trump is still a **** president and human being.

Hunter Biden's escapades in Ukraine however many years ago with unsubstantiated claims three weeks before the election doesn't make Biden not a better choice than Trump.

The desperation of Trump's apologists is getting dangerous.
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That's fine for somebody who is adamant about that perspective. There are clearly people who are less certain though, and this might be important in their decision making.
 
shuttlt said:
I agree. That's a different issue though to JoeMorgue's claims about how far away Hunter's house was from the the repair shop that is down the road from his dad's house.

I assume that the FBI already know whether Hunter's credit card was used, or he was in the area. That's the positive side of them having had the laptop for 10 months. If they don't, then we are back to it being appalling.
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Why do you assume that? Personal records require subpoenas/warrants and there remains no evidence that either Biden is the subject of a criminal investigation.
 
Babbylonian said:
Why do you assume that? Personal records require subpoenas/warrants and there remains no evidence that either Biden is the subject of a criminal investigation.
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OK, unpacking this.... the scenario then that we have is, what? The Russians somehow set up the laptop? Or this repair guy photoshops/hacks the pictures and emails himself, passes that onto the FBI. You guys seem convinced by the FBI investigating whether the laptop is Russian disinformation angle. You don't think they would have bothered to find out who paid for the laptop? Who originally bought the laptop? Whether somehow Hunter dropped off a legitimate laptop and it was then modified?

Is the idea that the FBI discovered an attempt to interfere with the election and filed it away like the Ark of the Covenant at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark?
 
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shuttlt said:
I agree. That's a different issue though to JoeMorgue's claims about how far away Hunter's house was from the the repair shop that is down the road from his dad's house.

I assume that the FBI already know whether Hunter's credit card was used, or he was in the area. That's the positive side of them having had the laptop for 10 months. If they don't, then we are back to it being appalling.
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I'm sure they do. That they are investigating it as a Russian misinformation campaign should tell you something.
 
shuttlt said:
Is the idea that the FBI discovered an attempt to interfere with the election and filed it away like the Ark of the Covenant at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark?
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AGAIN, warnings about Giuliani went out. We are also not privy to either the details of the FBI investigation or the extent of information passed on from the FBI to other government agencies.

As far as keeping the information secret, why wouldn't they? If the evidence was planted to screw with the election, releasing or even commenting on it would affect the election. It's possible that those currently in charge of the FBI have no interest in being Comey 2020.
 
timhau said:
Isn't it actually in Joe's basement and <<insert some other new "facts" here if the previous ones didn't work>>?
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By George, I think you're on to something.

Stacyhs said:
Is there any evidence placing Hunter in Greenville, Delaware at the time the computers were left at the repair shop? I've heard none.
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You do know you are wasting your time, right?

shuttlt said:
... Giuliani is still promising the big reveal 10 days before the election. What ever happens here will be entertaining. Maybe that's what Joe is waiting for to implode Giuliani's house of cards?
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Look over in the "Trump's Taxes" thread for the real Oct surprise. The NYT scooped Giulani's surprise with a new revelation as they promised. Bwahahahahaha.
 
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