Bill Barr and his October Surprise

I'm guessing that the story will now change to "Yes the allegations were completely false, but the fact that it got some traction means that Hunter Biden and the whole Biden family are dodgy as hell" :rolleyes:

In other words even though these specific allegations are unfounded, there could very well be other allegations which may not be unfounded but the Deep State has covered them up.
 
shuttlt said:
So, if there turns out to be child porn of Hunter Biden with a 14 year old girl on the laptop, and the FBI have done nothing about it... in your opinion the bad guy in the story is Giuliani for having revealed that in a way that maximizes how bad it makes Biden and all the people covering it up look?
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I was about to comment something on the lines of "Watch the child porn stuff to move from 'if'- to fact column eventually", and then ....

shuttlt said:
He doesn't seem to have had the book thrown at him though, does he? 10 months later and nothing. The story will be that this was covered up to protect Biden. Of course it will be a problem for Biden if this comes out.
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The only thing that mildly surprises me is that this happened on the very next thread page.
 
The Don said:
I'm guessing that the story will now change to "Yes the allegations were completely false, but the fact that it got some traction means that Hunter Biden and the whole Biden family are dodgy as hell" :rolleyes:

In other words even though these specific allegations are unfounded, there could very well be other allegations which may not be unfounded but the Deep State has covered them up.
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They know it works, look at Obama's birth certificate insanity, or Clinton murdering someone, no matter how ridiculous the story it's the repetition that creates a perception in people who usually aren't that interested in the details of political stories.
 
timhau said:
I was about to comment something on the lines of "Watch the child porn stuff to move from 'if'- to fact column eventually", and then ....



The only thing that mildly surprises me is that this happened on the very next thread page.
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You are reading more into my statements than I put into them. Giuliani is claiming that there are inappropriate pictures of children on the laptop, plus a discussion between Hunter and Joe about Hunter's sister in law/lover complaining about Hunter facetiming some 14 year old naked. The story that I expect to be pushed would be that this was covered up. I think you are misreading my "the story will be" statement to be something like "the real truth will be revealed to be". That isn't what I'm claiming.

As to damaging links to Biden. You have a conversation between Hunter and Joe talking about Hunter's sister in law/lover complaining about him facetiming a 14 year old naked, plus tomgirls(?to my girls?) various while smoking crack, and creating an unsafe environment. I can see that being used next to those images of Joe sniffing young girls hair. You then have the claim that Joe was taking half of Hunter's money. You've got people at the state department complaining about how corrupt Hunter's position in Burisma made them look. Ignoring the media blackout, this doesn't look like something you'd want swirling around your candidate.

Watching the Giuliani interview where he talks about this, he doesn't say CP. That probably gives a way to claim to debunk it by saying that it isn't actually CP.
 
dirtywick said:
Trump getting Giuliani to fake an email and slander an opponents son is pretty tame for this administration honestly. Doing it in the most stupidly ham handed way possible is expected
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I don't think Trump's getting Giuliani to do any thing : Giuliani's desperate to be involved and a hero again, which means he'll believe anything and makes him a perfect conduit.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Meh, the take I heard is that the tale is so obviously false that it's too sloppy to be Russian disinformation, and is instead likely someone trying to imitate it. I can believe that. We'll see.

Mind you, the source is Fox News, and Garrett is just repeating it. As I said, we'll see.

[edit]Here's the story. Note the source of their information:
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"Major Garrett
@MajorCBS
Via @ClareHymes22
@CBSNews

The FBI & DOJ concur with DNI Ratcliffe’s assessment that Hunter Biden's laptop and the emails in question were not part of a Russian disinformation campaign. FBI does has possession of the Hunter Biden laptop in question.

@DNI_Ratcliffe

@FBI"

vi·a traveling through (a place) en route to a destination. by way of; through. by means of.
Nothing about FoxNews
 
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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Delaware state police have issued a statement saying that they turned it all over to the FBI because of the questions around the credibility of the claims

Well, that's a vindication of Giuliani if ever I read one.
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Giuliani may have some criminal culpability here depending on how the images got on the computer. The law usually applies a "reasonable person" standard to things like how long you have to turn over something illegal after discovering it. If Giuliani had the material for a while and waited to turn it over to the Delaware State Police he's probably got a problem with possession of child pornography if there is any on the drive.

It is entirely likely that Giuliani is responsible for putting any images on the drive or was aware said images were on the drive. If that's the case, there are a whole bunch of new charges that could be coming the former mayor's way.
 
Steve Bannon strikes again.

"YouTube, Google's video subsidiary, is providing massive distribution to a 22-minute video packed with disinformation about Joe Biden and his son, Hunter. The video, which appeared on Sky News Australia, features Steve Bannon, formerly a top adviser to Trump, who was charged with fraud and money laundering by federal prosecutors in August. Among other things, Bannon, who is currently free on bail, falsely claims a trove of emails prove Joe Biden has "real business" with the Chinese Communist Party and could not receive a security clearance.

The segment has been viewed 2.9 million times on YouTube in two days and is being heavily promoted by YouTube's algorithm. At the same time, YouTube is running ads from the Trump campaign at the top of its homepage. Those ads feature another video about the Bidens with similar misinformation.

Bannon's interview concerns a series of articles published by the New York Post that allegedly disclose emails and other materials from Hunter Biden's laptop. Rudy Guiliani, Trump's lawyer, says he obtained the hard drive from a computer repair shop in Delaware. The repair shop owner claims Hunter Biden dropped off the laptop and never retrieved it. Both Sky News Australia and the New York Post are owned by Rupert Murdoch, the right-wing media mogul."

https://popular.info/p/steve-bannon...e=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share
 
shuttlt said:
So, if there turns out to be child porn of Hunter Biden with a 14 year old girl on the laptop, and the FBI have done nothing about it... in your opinion the bad guy in the story is Giuliani for having revealed that in a way that maximizes how bad it makes Biden and all the people covering it up look?
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I think anyone using child porn to gain political advantage is a bad person yes.
 
So this is what we are going to have to pretend to care about because the Conspiracy Theorist won't shut up at the Republicans about it being the new hotness?

Hunter Biden for no reason flew across the country to give his "childporn government secret shady business dealings" laptop to a random guy that just happened to be friends with Guilani?
 
It's just QAnon nonsense.

Giuliani gets a screenshot of an email from a "copy" of a hard drive, that he won't let anyone but a right wing tabloid examine by the way, from a guy who thinks he's going to get Seth Riched and tries to jam it into the national media for a week. When that doesn't work, oh by the way, there's child porn on it. So it gets turned into the FBI, who they claim already have the original.

It's ******* stupid and it's getting more stupid.
 
JoeMorgue said:
So this is what we are going to have to pretend to care about because the Conspiracy Theorist won't shut up at the Republicans about it being the new hotness?

Hunter Biden for no reason flew across the country to give his "childporn government secret shady business dealings" laptop to a random guy that just happened to be friends with Guilani?
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Isn't it 10 minutes from Joe's house?
 
Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Which Biden are you referring to here? There is no evidence that Joe Biden is covering any pornography up, much less anything else. If turns out that HUNTER Biden engaged in sex with a 14 year old, he should have the book thrown at him. But it would have nothing to do with Joe Biden.
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shuttlt said:
He doesn't seem to have had the book thrown at him though, does he? 10 months later and nothing. The story will be that this was covered up to protect Biden. Of course it will be a problem for Biden if this comes out.
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He hasn't been proved that Hunter has engaged in sex with a minor or that there actually are pornographic photos of him with a minor either. Or did I miss that announcement? Seems to me you've got him tried and convicted on nothing but the say so of Giuliani, Bannon, and reports that the FBI is investigating this as a possible misinformation campaign.
 
JoeMorgue said:
I don't know. I also don't care. You're just gonna believe whatever Brietbart and OANN and TotallyNotFakeNews.Rus tells you anyway.
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This has nothing to do with Brietbart or the others. I Googled it. It's the local computer repair shop. You wrote a post about how wildly improbably it was that he would go to this random repair shop thousands of miles away from anywhere he would reasonably be. I looked up where Joe Biden lives, looked up where the repair shop is and it's just down the road from Joe's house.
 
timhau said:
Isn't it actually in Joe's basement and <<insert some other new "facts" here if the previous ones didn't work>>?
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What's the objection to true facts here? JoeMorgue was repeating claims that there was no reason for him to fly all the way across the country to drop the laptop off at a random repair shop. I am correcting him, that it is the repair shop local to Hunter's dad.
 
shuttlt said:
What's the objection to true facts here? JoeMorgue was repeating claims that there was no reason for him to fly all the way across the country to drop the laptop off at a random repair shop. I am correcting him, that it is the repair shop local to Hunter's dad.
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Is there any evidence placing Hunter in Greenville, Delaware at the time the computers were left at the repair shop? I've heard none.
 
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