Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 24

[shuttlt]

I'm trying to imagine that logic being applied to a black person holding an object looking anything like a gun. Nope, every instance I can think of off the top of my head ends up with the black person being shot by police: toy gun, phone, nothing at all.

This is ******* art.

You can't think of any black people holding phones, or toy guns and them not being shot by police? Really? There are plenty of cases of white people holding toy guns and phones and getting shot by police. The % of the time either group hold objects that might possibly be misidentified as real guns and end up getting shot is tiny. There are plenty of instances of protesters being armed and showing their guns in public and not getting shot!

None of that nonsense matters though, as this isn't a question of whether a bad thing might have happened if they had a confrontation with police. This is about a specific law relating to self defence.

 

[johnny karate]

Hmm. No, You're not running for office. But neither were any of the white supremacist organizations that supported Trump. That "guilt by association with supporters" gets spread across all Republicans, including those running for office though. It's enough to take the fact that some bleepety-bleep racists support Republicans, and extrapolate to the assumption that all Republicans must be racists as a result.

Why do you think the same wouldn't hold true for Democrats? Why wouldn't the behavior of Democrat supporters taint Democrats by association?

In reality (which is not the internet, by the way), both Republicans and Democrats have some supporters who hold horrendous and abhorrent views, and who view the world through a lens of hatred. Most supporters of either party, however, are reasonable people with a wide variety of values, passion issues, concerns, and desires for the future of the country.

If you insist on painting a political party - and all of their supporters - with a brush dipped in the very worst of the worst of their supporters... well... we end up in a situation where everyone is equally justified in demonizing half the country. And that's a terribly inhumane place to be.

Nice speech.

Here’s that time Trump retweeted a video of one of his supporters shouting “White Power!”.

 

[shuttlt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt15soJxCsU

Not broken, doesn't look bent. Someone broke it after the initial incident.

Ooooh, the plot thickens. Thanks.

 

[carlitos]

One might get the impression that the "unrest" we are experiencing in places like Portland, Detroit, and Kenoosha is keeping Bidens' numbers down.

That makes no sense. One of the Trump supporters tweeted something like this too. I don’t get it.

“In Biden’s America, there will be riots in the streets.”

Vs

“In Donald Trump’s actual America, there are riots in the streets”

 

[Emily's Cat]

Even though we're straying off topic, I will opportunistically point out that I have an extensive posting history that is opposite of what you say -- fact driven not tribe driven -- including in this thread at length as recently as a few hours ago.

I reject your characterization of my post.

That last bit was a general venting, not targeted at you specifically.

 

[pgwenthold]

That makes no sense. One of the Trump supporters tweeted something like this too. I don’t get it.

“In Biden’s America, there will be riots in the streets.”

Vs

“In Donald Trump’s actual America, there are riots in the streets”

Yeah, I saw that one. It was riots and fires, with "This what will happen if Joe Biden is President"

That's some serious projection.

 

[Nova Land]

Donald J. Trump Retweeted

The Hill
@thehill
Navarro: "Melania Trump is the Jackie Kennedy of her time" http://hill.cm/TQVquVv

What the widow of an assassinated president.... Hmm... I can see her wishing she was.

As far as I know there haven't been any news stories about Donald Trump being assassinated -- not even in Fake News places such as the New York Times, the Washington Post, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, etc., let alone at any of the media sources Donald Trump might actually pay attention to such as Fox or OANN -- so I don't think that's what Trump was referring to. It's hard to tell what Donald Trump does and doesn't know, but I'm pretty sure he knows he hasn't been assassinated.

But there's a much more likely possibility than assassination for what he's referring to. While assassination may be the first thing which comes to some people's minds nowadays when JFK is mentioned, another notable aspect of his time as president was the number of sexual advances he made toward women who weren't his wife during that time. The media was aware of this but chose not to report on it at the time, and Jackie Kennedy chose not to speak out publicly about this during JFK's time as president.

I'm not sure if Trump in his current condition is capable of having sexual relations, but he is capable of making inappropriate sexual advances and has a long history of doing so. He also has a history of referring to his inappropriate sexual advances in short comments he's made in various times and places. So that's probably what he's referring to in that tweet -- that Melania Trump, like Jackie Kennedy, has chosen not to speak out about the sexual harassment of other women which their husband engaged in.

 

[Mojo]

Because over a few hundred people socialism only works on paper.
IMO... it can never work large scale as long as avarice is a fundamental part of many human's behavior. Show me one where bully boys didn't claw their way to the top to line their pockets. Then it gets nasty. [emoji20]

Are you doing that thing that some people do and using the word "socialism" when what you actually mean is "communism"?

They could be using “socialism” when what they actually mean is “Christianity“.

 

[Andy_Ross]

"Everything is terrible in America"
"Four more years!"

 

[Segnosaur]

Navarro: "Melania Trump is the Jackie Kennedy of her time"

What the widow of an assassinated president.... Hmm... I can see her wishing she was.

As far as I know there haven't been any news stories about Donald Trump being assassinated...
But there's a much more likely possibility than assassination for what he's referring to. While assassination may be the first thing which comes to some people's minds nowadays when JFK is mentioned, another notable aspect of his time as president was the number of sexual advances he made toward women who weren't his wife during that time. The media was aware of this but chose not to report on it at the time, and Jackie Kennedy chose not to speak out publicly about this during JFK's time as president.

I'm not sure if Trump in his current condition is capable of having sexual relations, but he is capable of making inappropriate sexual advances and has a long history of doing so....So that's probably what he's referring to in that tweet -- that Melania Trump, like Jackie Kennedy, has chosen not to speak out about the sexual harassment of other women which their husband engaged in.

I doubt very much whether Navarro or Trump was thinking assassination or covering up affairs when they made the "Melania is the Jackie Kennedy of our times" comment.

The Kennedys were seen as media stars at the time. Jackie Kennedy was seen as fashionable and classy. Navarro's comments were an attempt to make people think of Melanie in the same way... as some sort of fashionable, classy, dignified woman, instead of the hypocritical criminal who showed the world her naughty bits.

 

[Andy_Ross]

The Republican convention used videos tonight of stock footage from a factory in Moscow and a Ukrainian company's video of someone working on a cell phone.

 

[Andy_Ross]

“Donald Trump will never abandon you”

-Donald Trump’s 3rd wife

 

[phiwum]

An ex-Bush speechwriter tells the truth about what the unpublished Repub platform would really look like:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/08/new-gop-platform-authoritarianism/615640/

I tend to think the reason there's no platform is simpler.

What's the point in writing down a platform for the party when you know that Trump has no consistency at all? Inevitably, between now and the election, he would take several positions that contradict the published platform.

A platform makes sense only when your primary candidate has consistent policies.

 

[Segnosaur]

The Republican convention used videos tonight of stock footage from a factory in Moscow and a Ukrainian company's video of someone working on a cell phone.

What was the context? Some sort of political ad? Background images for some speaker?

I tried to google it but couldn't find any more details.

And who was reporting it? (I did find a reference to a staff writer for the Atlantic, which suggests it could be accurate, but I don't know if he was the originator or just repeated something he saw elsewhere.)

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Apparently, Tara Reade, who accused Biden of raping her, offered to appear at the RNC. She was not taken up on her offer. Wisely, they decide that was not a box they wanted to open when it comes to Trump.

Or maybe they know her story doesn't stand up to scrutiny, at least not enough to risk making the story-doubt the thing people focus on.

 

[Nova Land]

I doubt very much whether Navarro or Trump was thinking assassination or covering up affairs when they made the "Melania is the Jackie Kennedy of our times" comment.

Yes, I'm inclined to agree. But I though Darat might be being a little facetious with his comment and I was trying to be a little facetious in reply.

 

[Stacyhs]

Or maybe they know her story doesn't stand up to scrutiny, at least not enough to risk making the story-doubt the thing people focus on.

I've no doubt it was both.

 

[Trebuchet]

And the USA already HAS Socialism. Social Security? Socialism. Medicare? Socialism. Federally funded highways? Socialism. State Universities? Socialism. City police and fire departments? Socialism.
We just aren't all that good at it sometimes.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Gay rumors come back to haunt Lindsey Graham during a tough re-election campaign


However, it's just speculation. Take it with several grains of salt.

Another anti-gay gay guy in the GOP. What a surprise.

 

[Babbylonian]

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