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Trump is not going to accept election results Rough and ugly transition ahead.

Yes. The people at the Neo-Nazi rally were Neo-Nazis. Glad you're caught up.
So you say. I don't care. Let's suppose you are right. It's still dishonest to phrase this as "Trump called neo-Nazis fine people". Hence people who push things like this complaining that Trump is a liar washes right off him.

Imagine what it is like for somebody who passively assumes the Democrats are the good guys and then does a little digging. Over and over you find that the main evidence for Trump being a white supremacist, and Trump being a racist.... that one sees repeated over and over is being presented to trick people. It's not hard to find other times when Democrats have made terrible accusations out of convenience. The recent Kamala Harris "It was a debate HA HA HA" thing is just the most recent example.

Of course lots of people don't check, so maybe your liars will beat my liars?
 
Yes, they did, in their limited version of the court of public opinion. That same silly mindset that assumed that Hillary was a shoe in. We see that happening with Biden to. Now get out there actually vote for the guy, or by mail but if there's dem complacency again, thats on them completely. COMPLETELY.

Koo Koo for Cocoa Puffs. C'mon Rocky. That's ******* nonsense.

Trump is talking out loud about not accepting the election results. He talks about voter fraud where there is absolutely no history of any. Hillary Clinton conceded the election within hours. The Obama administration worked cooperatively with the Trump transition team.

At most you can point to is people complaining about the electoral college as opposed to the popular vote.
 
So you say. I don't care.

Yes. I am aware you don't care about facts, reality, or the actual truth of what happened. You have made that clear.

You're so intellectually dishonest and hollow that you think can dismiss any fact you don't like as "just someone else's opinion."
 
Well better destroy the country to teach them a lesson I guess. That's a good, rational, mature opinion to hold.

Not what I said, if some could see through the orange haze of ORANGE MAN BAD!!!!!, you'd realize I was stated they shouldn't be complacent this time. If the exercise repeats itself, it will be on the heads of the complacent.
 
At most you can point to is people complaining about the electoral college as opposed to the popular vote.

Wherein lies the hypocrisy of whiney Dems, if their guy won by the electoral vote, They'd be fine with it. Want Orange Man out of office, win BOTH votes. If he clings at that point, then force him out at gunpoint if need be.
 
Would it be possible for some skulduggery by, say, the Russians to make it look like the Dems have been cheating via some kind of electronic ballot hacking? If it looks all but certain Trump will lose, why not pad the Dem vote with obvious enough fraud so that the Repugs can 'legitimately' cry foul?
I don't think so, no. Election systems are not connected to the internet, and can't be hacked by the Russians at this point. I don't believe that there are any documented cases of election vote counts being "hacked" electronically.
 
Yes, they did, in their limited version of the court of public opinion. That same silly mindset that assumed that Hillary was a shoe in. We see that happening with Biden to. Now get out there actually vote for the guy, or by mail but if there's dem complacency again, thats on them completely. COMPLETELY.

The arguments I saw presented at the time were largely about the appropriateness of the Electoral College system in the modern era, not the legitimacy of the outcome or the vote itself. It was quickly accepted, like it or not, that Trump was president. If anyone questioned the legitimacy of the electoral process itself it was Trump, who couldn’t (and still can’t) accept that he lost the popular vote.
 
Not what I said, if some could see through the orange haze of ORANGE MAN BAD!!!!!

"Stop being dramatic! I mean it's just the head of the most powerful country in the world openly breaking the law and destroying democracy!"

**** that noise.
 
Wherein lies the hypocrisy of whiney Dems, if their guy won by the electoral vote, They'd be fine with it. Want Orange Man out of office, win BOTH votes. If he clings at that point, then force him out at gunpoint if need be.

More ******* nonsense. I'm not fine with the EC under any circumstances. I've been voicing a negative opinion on the EC for 5 decades.

I would accept the results, that is true since that is the law. So no, it is not hypocrisy as I also accepted Trump's election.
 
Yes. I am aware you don't care about facts, reality, or the actual truth of what happened. You have made that clear.

You're so intellectually dishonest and hollow that you think can dismiss any fact you don't like as "just someone else's opinion."
No! I said the "fact" that they were all neo-Nazi's didn't matter. Assuming that "fact" as true, doesn't get you to Trump calling neo-Nazis fine people as a fair assessment that is going to be convincing to people who aren't turned all the way up to 11 out of 10 on the Trump hate scale. If the goal is to try to turn people who are already at 11 up to 12, then sure... I can understand the strategy. The cost is that you are going to turn off people who aren't quite so committed to your perspective.

I may be wrong about this, but I honestly think your way of approaching this risks sending more people to Trump than it fires up into voting for Biden.
 
I'm at a point where I view "orange man bad" neenering to be on par intellectually with "sheeple". And of course, it serves to normalize an actually bad (and orange) man.
 
No! I said the "fact" that they were all neo-Nazi's didn't matter. Assuming that "fact" as true, doesn't get you to Trump calling neo-Nazis fine people as a fair assessment that is going to be convincing to people who aren't turned all the way up to 11 out of 10 on the Trump hate scale. If the goal is to try to turn people who are already at 11 up to 12, then sure... I can understand the strategy. The cost is that you are going to turn off people who aren't quite so committed to your perspective.

I may be wrong about this, but I honestly think your way of approaching this risks sending more people to Trump than it fires up into voting for Biden.
So, you've segued from foisting rank falsehoods to questioning efficacy. That's progress I suppose.
 
I don't much care what happens to Trump once he's out, as long as he's out, sooner or later. January 20, 2021 being the latest, of course.
 
I'm at a point where I view "orange man bad" neenering to be on par intellectually with "sheeple". And of course, it serves to normalize an actually bad (and orange) man.

It's not even new. "You're being overly dramatic and that's worse than anything Trump has ever done!" has been their cry since day one.

Being over-dramatic is, at worst, a minor sin.

At this point supporting or apologizing for Trump isn't.
 
Being over-dramatic is, at worst, a minor sin.

Hush your mouth! It's a virtue! Probably the only real virtue left!! *sweeps majestically down a grand staircase, throws open a set of double doors, and hurls a wine glass into a fireplace*
 
If Biden wins the election, then at noon Eastern Standard Time on Wednesday, January 20, Trump's presidency ends and Biden's will begin. The Secret Service will no longer be working for Trump, they will be working for Biden.

I will expect a team of SSAs to escort Trump out of the White House, and if he refuses to go, I expect them to drag him out kicking and screaming, and at gunpoint if necessary.

Odds are it would be Marines, as they guard the White House, and open doors.
 
42 times?! Why, that's practically 1 : 1!
Even if you do away with the Senate, Wyoming still has 1 person in congress at 50,000 votes per congress person while California has 55 congress people at 727,273 votes per congress person (a ratio that is still 14.5:1).

How do you resolve that anomaly? Do you say that states as small as Wyoming are not entitled to representation in congress (or to vote for the president) or do you insist that they be swallowed up by a larger state?
 
"Stop being dramatic! I mean it's just the head of the most powerful country in the world openly breaking the law and destroying democracy!"

**** that noise.

Then don't be complacent this time around and vote him out, and maybe stop being triggered.
 
More ******* nonsense. I'm not fine with the EC under any circumstances. I've been voicing a negative opinion on the EC for 5 decades.

I would accept the results, that is true since that is the law. So no, it is not hypocrisy as I also accepted Trump's election.

Clearly you haven't because Orange Man Bad! This is the post de jeur with many on this forum.
 

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