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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 23

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SezMe said:
It was a warm June day filled with sunshine. The place where the event took place was a grassy field. Reporters noted that walking around on the grass did not get their shoes wet. I aver that if the grassy field was dry so was the hard surface of the ramp. Well, I suppose a groundskeeper could have sprayed the ramp with water just before Trump ended his speech.

I just think you laudable attempt to be fair went beyond what is reasonable. YMMV.
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It wasn't an "attempt" to be fair. It was my tentative conclusion from watching the video, rather than a knee-jerk reaction to seeing Trump in it.
 
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Informed Dr. Fauci this morning that he has nothing to do with NFL Football. Forced Democrat run Minnesota to bring in the National Guard & end rioting & looting after seeing the destruction & crime in Minneapolis. 100% successful! Waiting to hear from Dem run Washington State...

....as to whether they want help in taking back Seattle. Ready to move quickly! Damage to various Democrat run Cities & States, including statue demolition, should not be allowed to happen. Ready to solve problem quickly! Federal Government is Ready, Willing & Able!@TuckerCarlson
 
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Larry Liberty
@LbrtyNow
Susan Rice knowingly lied to America about “the video” - Obama and Clinton abandon our Patriots, Rice abaondon the truth toncover it up. #Benghazi
 
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JT Lewis
@thejtlewis
Joe Biden is reportedly deciding between Kamala Harris and Susan Rice to be his running mate.
The Democrats have had 4 years since Trump won and that’s the best they could come up with.
They’re doomed.

Joe Pags Pagliarulo
@JoeTalkShow
Susan Rice lied her ass off over and over about what caused the terrorist attack in #Benghazi. She should know about trash heaps in history -- as that's where her record has landed her. She should face charges over Benghazi.

Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
Susan Rice is a proven liar and a disgrace to our country.

Errol Webber For Congress (CA-37)
@ErrolWebber
US House candidate, CA-37
The Biden campaign can't decide between Kamala Harris and Susan Rice for his Vice President. When those are your choices, you know that the Democrat Party is DEAD!
 
Segnosaur said:
Perhaps Supreme court justices are good "value for the person". There are a couple of problems though;

- To get those supreme court justices, you need to have control of the presidency, and the senate.

- Justices are limited in what they can rule on.... cases must be presented to them (i.e. they can't proactively make rulings.)
- Even a 'friendly' judge may sometimes rule against you, if there is little or no ambiguity in the law. (Witness Gorsuch and the recent gay ruling)

A president may only be in power 4 or 8 years, but in that time they can issue executive orders over a much wider range of areas proactively, and while they may be constrained by law, they can also play a role in changing existing laws.
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Re: The highlighted, while they can't proactively make rulings, they can all but wave a flag, letting activists know that they can get a favourable ruling by getting a case to the Supreme Court.

Consider Harris v. Quinn, in which Justice Alito spent half the majority opinion musing that it was time to reconsider Abood v. Detroit Board of Education, a unanimous decision that permitted unions to collect agency fees (or fair-share fees) from non-members they were required to provide various services for. As Justice Kagan noted in her dissent, this was curious as Harris had nothing to do with agency fees or Abood to begin with.

Conservative activists got the message though, and a frenzy ensued, with various groups trying to get a case before the Supreme Court as soon as possible, to the point they'd actively file to have their cases dismissed in the lower courts, so they could move up the ladder to the next level. They did eventually succeed with Janus v. AFSCME, once Gorsuch had been seated and the court had regained its conservative majority (a previous case, Friedrichs v. California Teachers Association died with Scalia).
 
Segnosaur said:
(I myself am Canadian too and I often almost make the mistake of connecting myself to the u.s. system. Guess it's a combination of the current dullness of the Canadian system along with the influence of the u.s. economically and socially.)
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The last four years have proven that Canadians can't just ignore US politics. We were going along perfectly fine, and then all of a sudden we're in a trade war and being declared a threat to US national security. And US policy is being dictated by a petty loser who hates our Prime Minister because he's better looking than Trump, and is willing to **** the whole country because of that. When I said "blow up in our faces", I meant it. Four more years of Trump will be a disaster for Canada as well as the US.

And it galls me that the fate of Canadians rests solely on the ability of American citizens to not **** something up.


Aridas said:
Mmm. It's well worth noting that not even remotely all "white" Christian churches are like that. Much about the US' Religious Right can be traced back to the white supremacist version of Christianity that the Confederacy made intrinsic to their power play, more specifically, and much about that can be traced back to the cotton industry in the southern states (which can be described as the most profitable industry that the world had ever known, at that point) and the motivated logic and power plays that the few that benefited most from it engaged in. The Religious Right =/= white Christianity, though.
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That's why I included the limit of churches that the GOP panders to. I don't think an overwhelming majority of Unitarian Universalists are chomping at the bit to vote for Trump, for example.
 
Minoosh said:
Trump's just making good on his promise to Erodgan, but now liberals are trying to spin this as a bad thing.
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Erdogan? I'm not seeing the connection.
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One of the claims made by Bolton is that Trump offered to end an investigation into Turkish companies that violated Iranian sanctions that the Southern district of NY was doing.

Not sure if Berman was personally involved in that investigation, but removing him might disrupt the SDNY and interfere with the investigation.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...-bolton-for-information-on-turkey-probe-after



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Ladewig said:
Hell, I’m not prepared to count him out after the votes are cast and counted.

He’ll go full meltdown.
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Or he'll just rationalize it in some way. My guess is that part of him is quite fed up with all the trouble.

Is there anything other than sanity to prevent a president from launching nukes on a US city? I don’t think it will come to that. This is more of an academic thing.
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After all, he doesn't launch them personally. My guess that those who do would object to the idea. Also, I frankly don't think he's that crazy.

Hans
 
MRC_Hans said:
Or he'll just rationalize it in some way. My guess is that part of him is quite fed up with all the trouble.



After all, he doesn't launch them personally. My guess that those who do would object to the idea. Also, I frankly don't think he's that crazy.

Hans
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He wouldn't even bomb Iran and NK when Bolton wanted him to.
 
Trump tweets

Wow, I finally agree with failed political consultant Steve Schmidt, who called Wacko John Bolton “a despicable man who failed in his duty to protect America.” Also stated that he should never be allowed to serve in government again. So true! Plain and simple, John Bolton,....

.....who was all washed up until I brought him back and gave him a chance, broke the law by releasing Classified Information (in massive amounts). He must pay a very big price for this, as others have before him. This should never to happen again!!!
 
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