Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 22

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Captain_Swoop said:
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Sleepy Joe Biden and the Radical Left Democrats want to “DEFUND THE POLICE”. I want great and well paid LAW ENFORCEMENT. I want LAW & ORDER!
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Another Trump lie. Biden has never called for defunding the police. Radical activists on the far left, not 'Democrats' are calling for various levels of defunding.

God, I really hate that man.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
How does Donald Trump know how large the crowd is when he’s hiding in his basement bunker with the three fences and concrete barriers??

His twitter followers are posting pictures of people at the edge of the crowd claiming there aren't many protestors. Pictures of Black Lives Matter Plaza and the the National Mall show it dwarfs his inauguration crowd.
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Um, it doesn't really, does it?

His inauguration had an attendance of 300,000 to 600,000. I heard a figure of 45,000 marchers today, but of course my memory or source could be faulty. But could there really have been 300k marchers in DC today?

(Perhaps in the US as a whole, I don't know, sounds plausible. But Swoop referred to DC.)
 
Stacyhs said:
Another Trump lie. Biden has never called for defunding the police. Radical activists on the far left, not 'Democrats' are calling for various levels of defunding.

God, I really hate that man.
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A veto-proof group of Minneapolis lawmakers have announced a plan to disband the police department. I don't know that they're all radical activists.
 
NBC4 Washington reported:
Tens of thousands of people streamed into Washington, D.C., amid heat and humidity Saturday for what might have been the capital’s largest protests yet against racism, police violence and the killing of George Floyd. Video from Chopper4 showed a massive crowd extending for blocks leading up to the White House in the evening. An estimated 100,000 to 200,000 protesters were expected in D.C., Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy said. NBC 4 link
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Trebuchet said:
If the Biden wins and the Dems don't take the Senate, not one federal judge or Supreme Court Justice will get confirmed. And the R's will blame Biden for that, just as they did Obama.
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I don't imagine any appointments by anyone for the foreseeable future unless POTUS and senate are same party.
 
phiwum said:
A veto-proof group of Minneapolis lawmakers have announced a plan to disband the police department. I don't know that they're all radical activists.
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First, you don't give a reference never mind a link. Second, I reckon you left out an important detail: what comes next. This is from the New York Times:
Nine members — a veto-proof majority — of the Minneapolis City Council pledged on Sunday to dismantle the city’s Police Department, promising to create a new system of public safety in a city where law enforcement has long been accused of racism...Council members said in interviews on Sunday that they did not have specific plans to announce for what a new public safety system for the city would look like. They promised to develop plans by working with the community, and said they would draw on past studies, consent decrees and reforms to policing across the nation and the world.Link
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Segnosaur said:
I do hope Trump goes to prison... but I suspect the Democrats will "wimp out" on pursuing charges. Plus, the legal system does tend to be very lenient on financial and political crimes.
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I predict he will grant sweeping self pardons on the way out. It will get tied up in the courts for eternity. The only hope is NY State.
 
phiwum said:
A veto-proof group of Minneapolis lawmakers have announced a plan to disband the police department. I don't know that they're all radical activists.
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They are 9 of 13 Council members who are, imo, overreacting and unrealistic. Dismantle the existing department if it's rife with bad apples, hire new officers with new training, and add programs geared toward violence prevention and community services. But anyone who thinks social workers and medics are going to respond to an armed robbery or a report of a sniper shooting up a store is nuts.

Bender told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that she envisions replacing a traditional police department with a broader, more holistic public safety department geared toward violence prevention and community services. Social workers or medics could respond to situations once handled by police, she said.
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dudalb said:
Problem I have is not so much with words "Under God" but that the assumption of many this means the Christian God. Irony is when Eisenhower signed the change, he made a major point of saying that no specific God was meant.
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This quote from Wikipedia is relevant:
Even though the movement behind inserting "under God" into the pledge might have been initiated by a private religious fraternity and even though references to God appear in previous versions of the pledge, historian Kevin M. Kruse asserts that this movement was an effort by corporate America to instill in the minds of the people that capitalism and free enterprise were heavenly blessed. Kruse acknowledges the insertion of the phrase was influenced by the push-back against Russian and Chinese atheistic communism during the Cold War, but argues the longer arc of history shows the conflation of Christianity and capitalism as a challenge to the New Deal played the larger role.
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Puts our Flag-Humper-in-Chief in a new context.
 
Ladewig said:
I suspect these checks and balance could be repaired in under 75 days.
If Biden wins the election, the Republicans will work tirelessly to get those limits clarified and codified before January 20.

Although I fear the proposed law may say that SCOTUS is required to rule on the appropriateness of each and every subpoena that Congress sends to POTUS and his or her staff.
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Not to worry. That sort of crap won't get past the House.
 
Stacyhs said:
...But anyone who thinks social workers and medics are going to respond to an armed robbery or a report of a sniper shooting up a store is nuts.
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Are you serious? That reads like something trump would tweet. Which is exactly why that's not what they're talking about. How could it be?
 
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jeremyp said:
If Trump loses in November, he’ll be in prison in 2024. I’m not well versed in the US constitution but I imagine that might be detrimental to his eligibility.
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I suspect that Trump will never spend a day behind bars. It's too big a leap to put an ex-President in jail.

This is not an argument that he should not spend time in jail; he should. But I think it's not likely to happen.

If I'm right, the next best thing would be to levy judgements against him that leaves he and his whole family living in Section 8 housing.
 
SezMe said:
If I'm right, the next best thing would be to levy judgements against him that leaves he and his whole family living in Section 8 housing.
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Wouldn't happen. You know how people give all their money to wacko preachers? Trump would have at least a megachurch or two full of people delighted to give him money. Because there are a lot of stupid people out there, and he is their king.
 
SezMe said:
I suspect that Trump will never spend a day behind bars. It's too big a leap to put an ex-President in jail.

This is not an argument that he should not spend time in jail; he should. But I think it's not likely to happen.

If I'm right, the next best thing would be to levy judgements against him that leaves he and his whole family living in Section 8 housing.
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I agree. And he's probably been trying to get his AG's to lock up Obama and Hillary for three years now.
 
phiwum said:
A veto-proof group of Minneapolis lawmakers have announced a plan to disband the police department. I don't know that they're all radical activists.
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What so you think they are just going to abolish the police force and not replace it? Any such move would be to replace a broken system with one that works, not head towards anarchy, But I suspect you know that and are just straw manning the argument.
 
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Why has Trump liked this tweet? It's still up, two hours later, and is the only thing in his like list.

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