Republican President, Republican Senate, Republican SCOTUS.
They are already gutting "free money for da free loaders" from stimulus and relief packages.
"Other countries this, other countries that." Other countries didn't elect Trump.
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Republican President, Republican Senate, Republican SCOTUS.
They are already gutting "free money for da free loaders" from stimulus and relief packages.
"Other countries this, other countries that." Other countries didn't elect Trump.
newyorkguy
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Again, let's take a deep breathe. Working people who have been laid off -- like me -- have unemployment benefits available. At least in New York, the unemployed also qualify for federal pandemic unemployment assistance which pays $600.00 a week. That's plus the $1,200 stimulus check most people have received. If someone is still having trouble putting food on the table there are food pantries in most locales.
This is the worst public health crisis in over a century. It's a difficult time. But let's not make it worse than it is. The people who seem to be most effected are people who were not working before the crisis hit and were already having trouble getting enough food.
My concern is, making dramatic claims that people don't have food because of the shutdowns can create political pressure to reopen the economy whether it's safe to do so or not. That's my dog in the fight. When downstate New York reopens I will have to go back to work. I want to be sure I don't have to do that until public health officials feel it's safe. Not because people on the internet start scaring people with, 'We're all going to starve!'
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That is not an exaggeration. He really said that. How disgusting.
Not because people on the internet start scaring people with, 'We're all going to starve!'
To be 100% clear I also favor public safety over economic recovery. I am most certainly not a "Sacrifice the old and weak so we can re-open Cracker Barrel" type.
That being said we cannot let the discussion happen as if we are pretending the safety nets that we should have actually exist.
Yes people without a job for 6 months should not be a death sentence. That doesn't change the fact that without a job in America you are not going to have a home, or a vehicle, or medical care, or whatnot. Bring this up is not being "dramatic" and you already know how I feel about "Oh you're being dramatic" being used as a counter.
An economic crisis here in America is going to kill more people then an equivalent economic crisis in European specifically because those safety nets don't exist. I can't make this not true by appealing to what should be.
Unemployment budgets are already running out across America and this is nowhere near as bad as it could potentially get.
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Segnosaur
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Actually minorities (more likely democrats) seem to be fairly hard-hit by Covid19. (Less health care insurance, often living in urban settings where social distancing is harder.)
The GOP may consider the loss of a few of their old white supporters as acceptable if it harms democratic supporters more.
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I might run some numbers on this. It's true that the virus is hitting minorities harder, but that will probably happen in big cities, which are heavily Democrat anyway, so maybe won't affect statewide races. Could affect Congressional races, though. Maybe OH / Michigan.
Old people in retirement homes are in all 50 states, but might skew more in AZ, FL and TX, which could have a different effect.
alfaniner
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Which reinforces my opinion that Trump is not the most powerful person in the world, Hannity is. Along with other blowhards like Tucker Carlson, Limbaugh, et al. Because they are the people that Trump actually listens to, agrees with, and follows their suggestions.
newyorkguy
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But that's not a fact. It's more of a factoid.
It's not true that all the people who are jobless in America are homeless and without any medical care.Squeegee Beckenheim
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None of that changes what I've said.
Honestly, it's like saying that you can't criticise the Trump administration for their bad response to the pandemic because they're the Trump administration.
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He's been moving away from Fox News recently, because he feels they don't support him sufficiently, and is instead more interested in OAN. Which is worse.
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He’s also not as carefully dancing around the idea that the coronavirus itself is a hoax the way his father did.
Worse still his embracing of Twitter essentially gives him his own private propaganda channel even if all mainstream and even most borderline crazy media abandons him.
Trebuchet
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Amazing as it may sound, Trump's sons are even dumber than he is. And they'll be continuing his dynasty.
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Since when have GOP talking points required facts or truth?
Post-truth, al[choke]ternative facts.
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Just speculating, mind you:
Inherited the dumb, yes.
Propagandized their whole lives, yes.
Maybe inherited his pathologic narcissism, probably not. People may be born with a tendency toward personality disorders, not sure it's really a genetic disease. I don't think anyone's looked for the gene.
Inherited Trump's ability to con people, no. There's no evidence they'd be successful at conning people without their father's help. He's never seen to it they learned to be independent, apparently.
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Segnosaur
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OAN is worst in that it is far more biased and has less integrity (if that is possible). However, it does not have the viewer base that fox has.
Without the fox talking heads, trump would be in big trouble (regardless of the mutual love affair between trump and OAN)
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Besides being an exaggerated example of pathologic narcissism, I think when people look back they are going to see Trump's also an exaggerated example of having cognitive dissonance.
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That's less than 100K = Your prediction was wrong, therefore Trump's regime did a better than perfect response to Covid-19 and that Covid-19 is as dangerous as the common cold...or less so, more like a mild allergy...or a sniffle due to dust....
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