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Merged Justice Deparment Drops Case Against M. Flynn

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After pleading guilty, the Dept. of Justice (read that "Barr") has dropped charges against Michael Flynn.

This is an unprecedented move. After months of Trump railing against how Flynn was railroaded, etc. Anyone else smell something rotten here?

The Justice Department on Thursday dropped its prosecution of former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn, who had pleaded guilty to lying to FBI agents about his conversations with a Russian diplomat in the weeks before President Donald Trump’s inauguration.

The bombshell move, which was granted promptly by the federal judge in the case, comes more than two years after Flynn’s guilty plea and agreement to cooperate with the then-ongoing investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/07/michael-flynn-criminal-case-dropped-by-justice-department.html
 
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I'm afraid that stench has been there for a while now.

Trump wants to get his buddies off without sullying his own name before the election. Barr is giving him cover.

Roger Stone charges dropped in 3... 2... 1...
 
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Dropping charges against someone who's pleading guilty? Isn't that like kicking an own goal?
 
The JD did not say that Flynn didn't lie (which Flynn admitted he did), only that they can't "prove it" BARD.

Uh huh.
 
If there was blatant state overreach then dropping the charges may be the right thing to do, regardless of how one feels about Trump.
 
theprestige said:
The lying was a proces crime. The DOJ is dropping the investigation that triggered that process. Because that investigation was bogus to begin with.
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What do you think you mean by "process" crime? Lying to federal agents is an actual crime, and Flynn confessed to it in court as part of his plea bargain.
 
theprestige said:
The lying was a proces crime. The DOJ is dropping the investigation that triggered that process. Because that investigation was bogus to begin with.
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I have mixed feelings about this.

The feds really seem to enjoy setting up perjury scenarios and nailing people for them, especially if they can't make a larger case. Generally speaking, I am never really comfortable with this. Opponents of Flynn really care more about his involvement with the extremely corrupt Trump election campaign than they do about the importance of not lying to federal agents.

I also have no illusion that Barr's justice department is dropping this after a come-to-jesus moment about this practice. This is obviously about bailing out Trump loyalists. No-one else finding themselves in the perjury trap can expect to get relief, unless they are doing dirty work for Trump.

The Trump era has made for some strange bedfellows. You have libs cheering on federal law enforcement, and conservatives bemoaning the overreach of law enforcement.

Strange times indeed.
 
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DOJ drops case against Flynn

The Department of Justice has withdrawn its case against Michael Flynn.

https://apnews.com/ae1ad252bb13490db2ceffc5d17b6d92

This is not terribly surprising, given recent revelations about how the case against Flynn started, and given that the prosecution illegally withheld this information until now. Van Grack is up a creek without a paddle, and he knows it.
 
What about all the charges they dropped as part of the plea bargain that is being thrown out?
 
Bob001 said:
What do you think you mean by "process" crime? Lying to federal agents is an actual crime, and Flynn confessed to it in court as part of his plea bargain.
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What about all the other crimes dropped as part of his plea bargain are those open again?
 
TragicMonkey said:
Dropping charges against someone who's pleading guilty? Isn't that like kicking an own goal?
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I don't think you've been following developments in this case. A lot has changed, and a lot of new information has come out since his initial plea.
 
Bob001 said:
What do you think you mean by "process" crime? Lying to federal agents is an actual crime, and Flynn confessed to it in court as part of his plea bargain.
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It's a crime that arises from the process of investigating/prosecuting some other crime. It's still a crime, but let's be clear: Lying during a bogus criminal investigation is not the same as committing the crime that's being "investigated". There was no justification for interrogating him, which kind of renders moot his lie during that interrogation.
 
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SuburbanTurkey said:
I also have no illusion that Barr's justice department is dropping this after a come-to-jesus moment about this practice. This is obviously about bailing out Trump loyalists.
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No, it's not a come-to-jesus moment. Van Greck got caught with his pants down. He had a legal obligation to turn over all Brady material to the defense, and recently uncovered documents prove that he didn't. His prosecution was sunk because of that. This is an admission of that fact. You can speculate whether or not that material would have been uncovered for someone else, but 1) it's just speculation, and 2) this is exactly the sort of thing that, if uncovered, can sink a prosecution of anyone.
 
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