Biden for President?

[Delphic Oracle]

There is something very wrong with process of your primaries if this is result.

As far I am aware, USA primaries aren't even mandatory or in law - this is purely party construct, right? Can't they change voting system in Democratic Primaries?

You guys would significantly reduce bad blood and infighting with system that lets you select more than one candidate and one most often selected wins. No need to complicate things with priorities, order or anything. Just let people pick many at once from Biden/Warren/Sanders/whatever.

Elections are a matter of law and are conducted by the individual states. In my jurisdiction, while election boards exist at county and local levels to determine site selection and staffing of polling places, the state certifies the results.

Parties do not conduct their own elections for those seeking public office. What they do have is their own rules for how to achieve certain positions within the organization itself, like any incorporated entity.

Now, they can "interpret" the results of these publicly run elections (i.e. the delegate math) however they want.

But at least in my neck of the woods, primaries are part of running for public office and so the election is a matter of public oversight, at least as far as collecting, certifying, and publishing the results.

 

[Bob001]

I agree with this 100%. Since the debate, we've seen virtually nothing of Biden. He needs to be see as being involved in this and not letting Trump use it as another campaign vehicle.

Everybody is supposed to be sheltering in place. Biden made a thoughtful, well-received speech about the crisis. But neither he nor Sanders can be holding rallies, press conferences, TV interviews etc.
https://www.motherjones.com/politic...ronavirus-speech-was-everything-trumps-wasnt/

 

[Delphic Oracle]

Everybody is supposed to be sheltering in place. Biden made a thoughtful, well-received speech about the crisis. But neither he nor Sanders can be holding rallies, press conferences, TV interviews etc.
https://www.motherjones.com/politic...ronavirus-speech-was-everything-trumps-wasnt/

Rallies, yeah I totally get it.

Press conferences, yeah, point taken.

TV interviews? I think that's still a thing. Yeah. Especially remote interviews. They usually start with the host and guest awkwardly pointing out how they are practicing social distancing and so should you folks at home.

I've done production work in some sketchy places in my time. I have a feeling a skeleton crew of talented production people could set up a room in Biden's house for telepresence and leave it more sterile than when they came in. Good production workers are actually known for "leave it better than you found it" when working in someone else's space. I've had people ask us "are you sure you don't need to film something in my bathroom? The laundry room maybe?" as we are striking and cleaning.

 

[Baylor]

There is something very wrong with process of your primaries if this is result.

As far I am aware, USA primaries aren't even mandatory or in law - this is purely party construct, right? Can't they change voting system in Democratic Primaries?

You guys would significantly reduce bad blood and infighting with system that lets you select more than one candidate and one most often selected wins. No need to complicate things with priorities, order or anything. Just let people pick many at once from Biden/Warren/Sanders/whatever.

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There are reasons why things are the way they are.

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[Mader Levap]

Elections are a matter of law and are conducted by the individual states. (...)

I am talking about primaries, not actual POTUS elections. Rest of response is complete non-answer.

I ask again: primaries are something that parties developed on their own to pick their candidate for president. They never have been in Constitution or anything like that. Yes or no?
If yes, I infer that rules of those primaries should be easier to change than rules for general elections. Yes or no?
In fact, theoretically party could say "we nominate guy X and that's it". Yes or no? (I know in practice everyone would call bloody murder, I am asking about lawfulness of that, not how likely it is)

Yet another guy from another country thinking he has a brilliant idea to solve a problem that exists only in his head.
Dude, you don't have the answer. You don't know what you're talking about. Why is this so difficult to understand?

I see you are one of those people that think out of few hundred millions Americans, the best of the best for position of POTUS you can find is bunch of gerontocrats on brink of death, determined amidst vicious infighting perfectly suited for other side to exploit via divide and conquer.

There are reasons why things are the way they are. And none of those reason are because no one thought or your brilliant "idea."

Oh, please, enlighten stupid foreigner that sticks nose in not his business what are these reasons.

 

[Delphic Oracle]

I am talking about primaries, not actual POTUS elections. Rest of response is complete non-answer.

I am also talking about primaries. Also, primaries are part of the "actual POTUS elections."

But at least in my neck of the woods, primaries are part of running for public office and so the election is a matter of public oversight, at least as far as collecting, certifying, and publishing the results.

Our state law specifies when, where, how, what public notice is required, handicap accessibility compliance, all of it. For primaries, too.

At the Federal level you cannot campaign for public office without having to file multiple forms (there's an exception for "testing the waters" phase with a $5,000 limit). Yes, for primaries, too.

No, the parties don't have to do this, but if they are going to publicly purport to use a public process, they have to follow the public process described in law.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Rallies, yeah I totally get it.

Press conferences, yeah, point taken.

TV interviews? I think that's still a thing. Yeah. Especially remote interviews. They usually start with the host and guest awkwardly pointing out how they are practicing social distancing and so should you folks at home.

I've done production work in some sketchy places in my time. I have a feeling a skeleton crew of talented production people could set up a room in Biden's house for telepresence and leave it more sterile than when they came in. Good production workers are actually known for "leave it better than you found it" when working in someone else's space. I've had people ask us "are you sure you don't need to film something in my bathroom? The laundry room maybe?" as we are striking and cleaning.

Honestly, in this day and age you don't need anything other than Skype. Anybody with a computer (with a webcam and microphone if a desktop) or smartphone should be able to be interviewed on TV at no cost to themselves, and with no need of anybody to set anything up for them. It won't look as polished as if they were properly lit with a broadcast quality camera pointed at them, but I'm sure viewers would be able to cope.

 

[Baylor]

I see you are one of those people that think out of few hundred millions Americans, the best of the best for position of POTUS you can find is bunch of gerontocrats on brink of death, determined amidst vicious infighting perfectly suited for other side to exploit via divide and conquer.

That's who black people prefer.

 

[dudalb]

Hopefully the Corona Virus outbreak will make some of the Biden is no better then Trump Bernie Bros reconsider their stand.

 

[Baylor]

It is quite dumb statement.

There are european countries that are quite homogeneous, yes, but there are also countries with significantly higher count of racial minorities. You would see black man once in blue moon in Poland, but in Germany you would see them dozen per day.

By throwing all european countries in one bag, you are doing exactly what you accuse of others. Pretty hilarious.

Poland 154th most diverse country out of 160
Germany 149th.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_ethnic_and_cultural_diversity_level

By throwing all european countries in one bag, you are doing exactly what you accuse of others. Pretty hilarious.

Quite dumb statement.

 

[Cabbage]

You were right. I was wrong. You have all the answers, white savior. It's not the innumerable complexities of multiracial democracy of over 330,000,000. (Comparing that to a white country of 5 million is a totally valid analogy btw). It's not the several large racial voting blocs that are de facto gatekeepers that serve in favor of the establishment. It's just that no one thought of your brilliant "idea."

(I'm using sarcasm because it's the only thing you people understand.)

No, it's actually rather obvious that now that your bluff is being called on your claim of "reasons" you are dodging due to the fact that you can not support this claim of "reasons", as expected:

There are reasons why things are the way they are. And none of those reason are because no one thought or your brilliant "idea."

Still waiting for you to present those reasons, chief.

 

[Mader Levap]

You would see black man once in blue moon in Poland, but in Germany you would see them dozen per day.

(laughing dog)

Personal experience of my friend that I talk with daily or assertions of anonymous guy with obvious agenda on net? Oh woes me, how I would ever decide?

And I still wait for your "reasons" why changing rules of primaries is impossible in USA (or at least as hard as changing Constitution or something).

Judging by your blabbling about "black people" this or "innumerable complexities of multiracial democracy" that, you thought I am asking why they picked Biden in these dem primaries. You may want to re-read what I wrote, because I asked about something very different.

 

[Cabbage]

I never said it was "impossible."

Oh, but you did say

There are reasons why things are the way they are. And none of those reason are because no one thought or your brilliant "idea."

and you were asked to present those reasons. And since then.....

.....silence and deflections, as expected.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Where is Biden? He hasn't been in the media spotlight for a bit. Dammit!!! He's letting Trump get away with lying to the American people about the response to covid-19.

 

[Elagabalus]

Then we are left with the prospect of pushing Joe out of the gate to talk about the "colon-virus he had back in his days storming the bay of pigs" or some such likely gaffe or mismemory that embarrasses us for a couple of days.

That is not how we need to get the focus off Trump.

Well, you voted for him and thought he was the man with the plan. Oh, yes we need a stand-in front runner who Joe hasn't picked yet to stand in for Joe. Got it.

 

[Polaris]

Where is Biden? He hasn't been in the media spotlight for a bit. Dammit!!! He's letting Trump get away with lying to the American people about the response to covid-19.

Joe Hiden'!

 

[Elagabalus]

Joe Hiden'!

 

[Segnosaur]

Where is Biden? He hasn't been in the media spotlight for a bit. Dammit!!! He's letting Trump get away with lying to the American people about the response to covid-19.

I guess it's just the nature of the news cycle. Biden may be a good leader to have for a pandemic (or at least better than what we have now) but at this point he has no real power to deal with any issues, and with the primaries taking a back seat, there is not much reason for news organizations to be talking about him.



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[Distracted1]

Well, you voted for him and thought he was the man with the plan. Oh, yes we need a stand-in front runner who Joe hasn't picked yet to stand in for Joe. Got it.

Primaries in Pennsylvania aren't until the end of April, so I don't quite understand the "you voted for him" part of your post.

I specifically pointed out that the "man with the plan" is Warren.

I have been fairly consistent for the last six months or so that Bidens' VP would need to do all the heavy lifting, because his only contribution is his electability in the States that need to be taken back.

Whatever your rant is on about- swing!! and a miss!!

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Hopefully the Corona Virus outbreak will make some of the Biden is no better then Trump Bernie Bros reconsider their stand.

Straw men don't have to worry about Covid-19, they have no respiratory system.