The Trump Presidency: Part 20

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JoeMorgue said:
I'm uneasy with the whole "The worst this gets, the worst it makes Trump look" thing.

Mainly because it's easy to drift from that lane into the "Therefore we should want it to get as bad as possible" lane.

I don't want this to get any worse then it absolutely necessary just for possible political positives down the line.
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Some outspoken people have been speeding along in that lane since November 2016. Remember when Bill Maher said it'd be worth it to crash the economy if it meant the end of Trump?
 
Mike! said:
Some outspoken people have been speeding along in that lane since November 2016. Remember when Bill Maher said it'd be worth it to crash the economy if it meant the end of Trump?
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An economy is one thing. A pandemic is another.
 
Hey, I'm an old people, and I vote Dem! White and male, to boot.

With San Francisco on lockdown, I'm surprised Trump hasn't blamed Pelosi yet. Or maybe I just haven't heard about it.
 
timhau said:
Really, isn't anyone going to defend Trump's handling of the COVID-19 crisis? Not even an eyeroll to criticism?
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Probably too busy following Fox News advice and going out to enjoy the world while all the scaredy cat liberals hide at home.
 
Most people in the US are gong t ohave their lives uprooted big time.
And when that happens, it's the sitting President who gets blamed.
 
timhau said:
Really, isn't anyone going to defend Trump's handling of the COVID-19 crisis? Not even an eyeroll to criticism?
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We have one guy n the Covi thread in the sceince section who is sort of defending Trump indirectly by still sticking to the "Mass Media Hysteria" storylline.
 
JoeMorgue said:
I'm uneasy with the whole "The worst this gets, the worst it makes Trump look" thing.

Mainly because it's easy to drift from that lane into the "Therefore we should want it to get as bad as possible" lane.

I don't want this to get any worse then it absolutely necessary just for possible political positives down the line.
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I don't think anyone wants anyone to die, or get sick. This is causing a lot of issues, but I think most people are rightfully being critical that while the orange ******* was saying everything is fine we knew this was going to come about. His own experts (the ones he repeatedly contradicted) knew this was going to happen. While no one wants it, pointing out retardation (which this is, in the literal sense of the word), is not wrong.
 
“There’s No Boogeyman He Can Attack”: Angry at Kushner, Trump Awakens to the COVID-19 Danger
For weeks, Trump and his son-in-law saw the novel coronavirus mostly as a media and political problem. But the spiraling cases, plunging markets, and a Mar-a-Lago cluster finally opened eyes.

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With the markets in free fall despite emergency action by the Fed over the weekend, Trump is waking up to the reality that’s been clear to everyone: Coronavirus poses a once-in-a-hundred-years threat to the country. “In the last 48 hours he has understood the magnitude of what’s going on,” a former West Wing official told me. As Trump processes the stakes facing the country—and his presidency—he’s also lashing out at advisers, whom he blames for the White House’s inept and flat-footed response. Sources say a principal target of his anger is Jared Kushner. “I have never heard so many people inside the White House openly discuss how pissed Trump is at Jared,” the former West Wing official said.

Sources told me Trump is regretting that Kushner swooped into the coronavirus response last week. Kushner, according to sources, encouraged Trump to treat the emergency as a P.R. problem when Fauci and others were calling for aggressive action. “This was Jared saying the world needs me to solve another problem,” a former White House official said. One source briefed on the internal conversations told me that Kushner advised Trump not to call a national emergency during his Oval Office address on March 11 because “it would tank the markets.” The markets cratered anyway, and Trump announced the national emergency on Friday. “They had to clean that up on Friday,” another former West Wing official said. Trump was also said to be angry that Kushner oversold Google’s coronavirus testing website when in fact the tech giant had a fledgling effort. Trump got slammed in the press for promoting the phantom Google product. “Jared told Trump that Google was doing an entire website that would be up in 72 hours and had 1,100 people working on it 24/7. That’s just a lie,” the source briefed on the internal conversations told me.
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Well, now we have the likely source of some of the utter nonsense that Trump's spewed.

Oh... and here's an interesting tidbit...

Another turning point was an intervention by Guilfoyle’s former colleague Tucker Carlson. A source who attended the party told me Carlson went to Mar-a-Lago to confront Trump directly about his failure to take the virus seriously.
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Hey! Carlson did something good for a change!

Too bad Trump and co are completely out of their depth and the plans prepared for a scenario just like this by the Obama Administration were thrown in the trash right after they were briefed on such during the transition. Going further, Trump's inaction and downplaying of the situation for over a month after he was told that such would likely lead to 1.7 million deaths by the CDC (not accounting for additional deaths due to the health care system being overwhelmed) is pretty much criminal.
 
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