2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker Part III

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JoeMorgue said:
I don't like that "most" modifier given how close some of these races were expected to be.

A few days of multiple people claiming they won Iowa will the Iowanian (that needs to be a word) DNC gets it's waterfowls in a linear orientation would help nobody.
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Given all the ruckus their screwup has caused, I would have thought they would have waited until they had a final result.

I don't think there is much patience to deal with results trickling in after the monumental ****-up they managed on election night.
 
JoeMorgue said:
There's a lot of the "The entire system is rotten to the core, so it doesn't matter in which direction we move as long as we move as far as possible, away from center" in some the Sanders supporters, and yes I'm of the opinion that's largely the mentality (expressed in a different, more spiteful way) that gave us Trump.
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That is a cute way of saying there are some obvious deep flaws in the system that need to be addressed. Always move as far away as possible from addressing the issues that affect ordinary working Americans and lift up some of its most disadvantaged.
 
Segnosaur said:
I doubt the BernieBros are thinking that far ahead. But even if they supposedly have a "plan" to push the Democrats to the left, doesn't necessarily mean that they aren't acting irrationally, if their plan is one that is foolish.

Trump is an immediate threat. The damage that he is causing may take decades to undo. Ok, lets say the BernieBros get their way, and another Trump victory allows a far-left candidate to come to power in the future. Hurray for them. I hope they enjoy ruling over a united states that is financially bankrupt, suffering from the results of global warming, and has a supreme court that has just ruled abortion illegal by a 8-1 victory in the republican-stacked Supreme court.
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It's a funny business the judge at Supreme Court job. They may be partisan but still think the constitution guides them. Just reversing Roe vs Wade is what they would do, and that just throws this issue back to states. Each state could allow or ban abortion, since it then is no longer an issue covered by right to privacy.
 
Segnosaur said:
Yeah republicans screwed up before. I think people were hoping for better from the Democrats. Plus, I think (given the BernieBro "We was robbed" rhetoric) there is probably more of an emphasis on getting things right. I don't think the Republicans had that type of pressure back in 2012.
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It's one state and ~24 hour delay in reporting. Let me repeat, BFD.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Given all the ruckus their screwup has caused, I would have thought they would have waited until they had a final result.

I don't think there is much patience to deal with results trickling in after the monumental ****-up they managed on election night.
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It was a caucus, not an election. There's going to be another 40-something caucuses and primaries before the party settles on a nominee. Calm down.
 
theprestige said:
It was a caucus, not an election. There's going to be another 40-something caucuses and primaries before the party settles on a nominee. Calm down.
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People are emotionally invested in this. Hell, Iowa knows that, that's why they play their silly games to be first. They deserve all the flak they are getting now for bungling this so badly.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
People are emotionally invested in this. Hell, Iowa knows that, that's why they play their silly games to be first. They deserve all the flak they are getting now for bungling this so badly.
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And the Iows caucuses have not been a big thing for that long. At late as the last 80's, they did not get that much coverage, the New Hampshire primary was the first really big test.
 
dudalb said:
But no so good for Biden....
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Fine by me. I think he'd be a weak candidate (both in terms of energy, communication skills and ability to be smeared as creepy/corrupt).

I'm tending to see Pete B. or Amy Klubacher as relatively sane moderates (cf Bernie), so not bad IMHO.
 
Belz... said:
Think of it this way: Progressives could LOATHE Sanders, and dudalb could agree with them, and he could still think Sanders will lose because he's too far left. The opposite could be true as well, so there's no causal connection between those two positions that leads to support being the cause for his potential loss. In fact, if Sanders had enough support, he'd win.
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Think of it this way: Progressives support Sanders because, being progressives, they tend to be lefter leaning. I never said that dudalb thought Sanders would lose the general simply because he was supported by progressives; you'd have to be a moron to think the causal relation was that simple--Yet that seems to be the interpretation you insist on holding me to, since you're too damned stubborn to acknowledge that dudalb's position is, as I claimed, Sanders, being supported by progessives because, like them he is more left than the average D candidate, is bound to lose the general (assuming he wins the nomination) due to that left leaning which attracts progressives.

QED, and I am done with this nonsense.
 
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