Did Epstein run a World Satanic Ring?

[Cosmic Yak]

With Epstein they got authorised orgies in authorised (ritualistic) settings.

You keep saying this.
Are you ever going to back it up with evidence?

 

[Cosmic Yak]

What did Jeffrey Epstein ever do for mankind?

Well, he seems to have been the best ever recruiter for Satanism.
You, by the way, having enrolled everyone from the Ancient Egyptians to Bill Clinton, are the second best.

Or come to think of it, Jimmy Savile?

Jim'll Fix It ran for years, and brought happiness to countless people.
That was one reason why it was such a shock when the truth about him came out.
Same with Rolf Harris.

 

[Vixen]

You keep saying this.
Are you ever going to back it up with evidence?

The massive group shower rooms. The rooms piled high with dozens of cushions. The large underground 'nightclub' rooms where staff were forbidden to tread. The 'baby-making' ranch, with Epsteins crazy-but-true plan to impregnate fifty women at a time with the seed of top scientists and himself.

This is factual.

 

[Vixen]

Well, he seems to have been the best ever recruiter for Satanism.
You, by the way, having enrolled everyone from the Ancient Egyptians to Bill Clinton, are the second best.



Jim'll Fix It ran for years, and brought happiness to countless people.
That was one reason why it was such a shock when the truth about him came out.
Same with Rolf Harris.

I never knew anyone who liked Jimmy Savile or his taste in music.

Rolf Harris: I like 'Sun Arise'. That's about it.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

This is factual.

Where is it on a scale of "citation needed" factual to "evidence which would stand up in court" factual?

 

[Belz...]

Doesn't add up.

And you've got a nose for such things.

 

[Belz...]

Logical fallacy #101 comes along just in time: the ad hominem abuse.

That's not an ad hominem, but not understanding fallacies is a given here.

 

[Craig4]

Did any victim from the first trial or the ones who made statements in court after Epstein's suicide mention anything about Satanic rituals?

 

[Cosmic Yak]

The massive group shower rooms. The rooms piled high with dozens of cushions. The large underground 'nightclub' rooms where staff were forbidden to tread. The 'baby-making' ranch, with Epsteins crazy-but-true plan to impregnate fifty women at a time with the seed of top scientists and himself.

This is factual.

Cushions? Seriously? This is absolute desperation.

None of this remotely resembles evidence for ritualised orgies.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

I never knew anyone who liked Jimmy Savile or his taste in music.

Rolf Harris: I like 'Sun Arise'. That's about it.

None of which changes the fact that many people did.

Which was the point of my post.

 

[Thermal]

...Likewise look who it is. It is some bum from blue-collar Brooklyn, a would be maths teacher turned trader then partner, zero talent for anything much....

Yeah, in the States a hustler can get pretty far, with a combination of luck and sociopathy. There's nothing remotely implausible about this.

The massive group shower rooms...

As noted before, y'all have not been around high end baths much. Huge showers are a staple in luxury homes. They are not meant to indicate occupancy, just extravagance. The one pictured earlier had one shower head, and the cosmetics alcoves were consistent with a single rich user's products. If you see any large space, do you assume that it was designed around the concept of uncomfortable group sex on hard flooring and sharp edges with glass walls?

...The large underground 'nightclub' rooms where staff were forbidden to tread...

This is factual.

Factual. I see. You sure this isn't rumor? You, uh...are familiar with cleaning and maintenance personnel there? Hey, how we doing on factual pictures of this nightclub? Throw in the submarine docks while we are at it.

 

[Belz...]

Cushions? Seriously? This is absolute desperation.

None of this remotely resembles evidence for ritualised orgies.

But dude, there were cushions. Not chairs, CUSHIONS! What more do you need to prove that orgies took place there? What, was the giant chess board not enough for ya?

 

[BStrong]

Doesn't add up. IMV it is likely a CIA-Mossad type project, interfering in the operations of another country (US/UK western values). CIA wasn't above MK_Ultra, was it, so fact can be stranger than fiction and often is.

Opinions are not facts.

If you wish to believe that various gov/intel/whatever agencies are running interference for pedos that's your prerogative, but aside from connect-the-dots CT loons the evidence for the theory doesn't exist.

 

[Vixen]

Did any victim from the first trial or the ones who made statements in court after Epstein's suicide mention anything about Satanic rituals?

Hello? Acosta arranged a plea deal. IOW no evidence was presented as Epstein pleaded guilty in exchange for a 13-month out-of-jail sentence, no questions asked.

 

[Vixen]

Opinions are not facts.

If you wish to believe that various gov/intel/whatever agencies are running interference for pedos that's your prerogative, but aside from connect-the-dots CT loons the evidence for the theory doesn't exist.

MK-ULTRA project is an historical fact, not an opinion.

 

[Vixen]

None of which changes the fact that many people did.

Which was the point of my post.

Many people liked Noel Edmonds or Chris Tarrant. They never became part of the Royal Family inner circle like Jimmy Savile, profligate child abuser, did.

 

[Belz...]

MK-ULTRA project is an historical fact, not an opinion.

And what does it have to do with this case?




Oh, sorry, I forgot who I was talking to.

 

[Vixen]

Yeah, in the States a hustler can get pretty far, with a combination of luck and sociopathy. There's nothing remotely implausible about this.



As noted before, y'all have not been around high end baths much. Huge showers are a staple in luxury homes. They are not meant to indicate occupancy, just extravagance. The one pictured earlier had one shower head, and the cosmetics alcoves were consistent with a single rich user's products. If you see any large space, do you assume that it was designed around the concept of uncomfortable group sex on hard flooring and sharp edges with glass walls?



Factual. I see. You sure this isn't rumor? You, uh...are familiar with cleaning and maintenance personnel there? Hey, how we doing on factual pictures of this nightclub? Throw in the submarine docks while we are at it.

Factual in the sense eye witness ex-staff described it as thus.

There was a submarine dock at Little St Thomas as it was a tourist spot for people to visit for submarine sightseeing.

Ghislaine Maxwell was an enthusiastic submarinist and founded TarraMar (_sp?). She was video at a conference bragging that 65% of ocean was outside any legal jurisdiction. Strange topic to have done your homework on.

 

[Vixen]

And what does it have to do with this case?




Oh, sorry, I forgot who I was talking to.

Sorry, are you personalising your post?

if you read back you can discover the reference.

 

[Belz...]

Sorry, are you personalising your post?

Well, I tried using reason and requests for evidence but clearly you're not interested in that. You're too in love with your own speculation. So yeah, derision is the only thing left for you.