Eric Ciaramella - whistleblower

The OP's total devotation to Dear Leader is touching.
Althought the story is unconfirmed...the guy named is just one of many being floated around.
And I love the way the OP ignores that everything the whistle blower says has been confirmed by other sources.
 
dudalb said:
And I love the way the OP ignores that everything the whistle blower says has been confirmed by other sources.
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As is the SOP for the OP, applecorped didn't actually say a ******* thing. None of the words in the OP are his own. He used a quote from the link, didn't put it in quotes, and then left it for others to read. He didn't make any comments, didn't draw a conclusion, didn't have an opinion. Just wanted people to see that the pathetic douchebags that represent the GOP\Right Wing are frantic to get someone's name out there so they can begin to punish him for daring to speak up.
 
plague311 said:
As is the SOP for the OP, applecorped didn't actually say a ******* thing. None of the words in the OP are his own. He used a quote from the link, didn't put it in quotes, and then left it for others to read. He didn't make any comments, didn't draw a conclusion, didn't have an opinion.
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This is a common and predictable style of present-day so-called "debate" on the internet - making one's positional argument solely in the form of quotes, because that means it's somebody else making the claims or statements, not me, so I don't have the burden of supporting or proving them and in fact I'm not even saying I agree with them at all, I am just sharing them for purely informational purposes.
 
I heard the name leaked late yesterday afternoon from the standard Right Wing troll pages but none of the mainstream, even Right Wing mainstream, news agencies have even hinted at it yet.
 
Purportedly the illustrious Devin Nunes is behind this effort, via an aid.

A top aide to Rep. Devin Nunes has been providing conservative politicians and journalists with information—and misinformation—about the anonymous whistleblower who triggered the biggest crisis of Donald Trump’s presidency, two knowledgeable sources tell The Daily Beast.

Derek Harvey, who works for Nunes, the ranking Republican on the House intelligence committee, has provided notes for House Republicans identifying the whistleblower’s name...
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Checkmite said:
This is a common and predictable style of present-day so-called "debate" on the internet - making one's positional argument solely in the form of quotes, because that means it's somebody else making the claims or statements, not me, so I don't have the burden of supporting or proving them and in fact I'm not even saying I agree with them at all, I am just sharing them for purely informational purposes.
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Except that no one is fooled. It's assumed that what you quote and which agrees with what you usually quote or say is something you (general) agree with.
 
When you got nothing to fight the charges, fight the messenger.

Sorry applecorped, toothpaste is out of the tube. The whistleblower is no longer all that relevant.
 
acbytesla said:
Total bollocks. Everything that the whistleblower reported has been thoroughly confirmed by others including those with direct first hand knowledge, not to mention the released summary of the call. There is only one purpose of outing him and that is demonization and possibly exacting revenge on someone doing his patriotic duty.
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Also to frighten potential future whistleblowers into not doing so.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
When you got nothing to fight the charges, fight the messenger.

Sorry applecorped, toothpaste is out of the tube. The whistleblower is no longer all that relevant.
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But there's hatin' and harrassin' to be done of any potential whistleblower!
 
applecorped said:
https://www.realclearinvestigations...biden_brennan_dnc_oppo_researcher_120996.html

RealClearInvestigations is disclosing the name because of the public’s interest in learning details of an effort to remove a sitting president from office. Further, the official's status as a “whistleblower” is complicated by his being a hearsay reporter of accusations against the president, one who has “some indicia of an arguable political bias … in favor of a rival political candidate"
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What the Trumpers don't seem willing to grasp is that all federal government employees are sworn -- literally -- to protect the U.S. Constitution and serve the American people, not help a President get re-elected or protect him from exposure of his crimes.
An individual, except the President, elected or appointed to an office of honor or profit in the civil service or uniformed services, shall take the following oath: “I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.” This section does not affect other oaths required by law.
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https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/3331
 
JoeMorgue said:
I heard the name leaked late yesterday afternoon from the standard Right Wing troll pages but none of the mainstream, even Right Wing mainstream, news agencies have even hinted at it yet.
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Several names are being kicked around as the Whistleblower.
 
plague311 said:
As is the SOP for the OP, applecorped didn't actually say a ******* thing. None of the words in the OP are his own. He used a quote from the link, didn't put it in quotes, and then left it for others to read. He didn't make any comments, didn't draw a conclusion, didn't have an opinion. Just wanted people to see that the pathetic douchebags that represent the GOP\Right Wing are frantic to get someone's name out there so they can begin to punish him for daring to speak up.
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What is interesting about applecorped is he did not really have strong political opinions until about 4 years ago, when he went to the extreme right.
 
dudalb said:
What is interesting about applecorped is he did not really have strong political opinions until about 4 years ago, when he went to the extreme right.
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Or did he? He posts his own thoughts so rarely that it's hard to tell if he's not just having a bit of fun with us.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Also to frighten potential future whistleblowers into not doing so.
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That too. There is a genuine purpose for the anonymity. I think whoever the whistleblower is has become irrelevant since EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING has been corroboratedl. Let's deal with the factsl as opposed to trying to shoot the messenger.
 
dudalb said:
The OP's total devotation to Dear Leader is touching.
Althought the story is unconfirmed...the guy named is just one of many being floated around.
And I love the way the OP ignores that everything the whistle blower says has been confirmed by other sources.
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awwwwww..... I didn't vote for him


Keep trying
 
Didn't take long for the knives to come out and people stop addressing the article and start personalizing it but that's is, as someone recently said here.....SOP
 
Armitage72 said:
It's no different than the people constantly claiming that the Steele Dossier was "completely discredited".
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The Whistle-blower Complaint IS the Steel Dossier of this scandal.

As far as we are able to tell, everything the whistle-blower has said has been thoroughly and repeatedly confirmed by a parade of highly credible fact witnesses. Furthermore, nothing the fact witnesses has said so far has contradicted anything the whistle-blower has said (if there was, we would now know about it, because it would be beyond reason to claim that none of the 46 Republican congressmen present at the depositions would have leaked it to the press).

Additionally, those fact witnesses have testified to even more egregious behaviour by Trump and his minions, things that the whistle-blower did not mention.
 
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applecorped said:
Didn't take long for the knives to come out and people stop addressing the article and start personalizing it but that's is, as someone recently said here.....SOP
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Considering that by exposing the whistleblower you are DOING the EXACT same thing on a bigger scale, what did you expect? Are you really going to defend going after the whistleblower instead of the substance?
 
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