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Greta Thunberg - brave campaigner or deeply disturbed?

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GlennB said:
Greta Thunberg: How she convinced parents to be vegan and buy an electric car

And yet some claim the parents are manipulating and exploiting her?
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Haha oh wow. That article had more ads than copy. The bulk of it was a recap of background and recent Greta news. The final two paragraphs of this blurb actually relate to the headline. Here is what they say:

"According to The Sun, Greta convinced her parents to turn vegan and to buy an electric car to fit in with her environmental views.

She also convinced her mother to stop using airplanes to travel, and Malena went on to back Sweden’s “flight-shaming” movement."

It's not even original reporting. And there's no explanation of how she did it. Not even a quote from either parent asserting that she did it.

Not that it matters. The claims of innocence from an innocent parent are functionally identical to the claims of innocence from a manipulative parent.

I doubt that even the original reporting by The Sun actually gets to the bottom of question of whether the parent's claim is true, or part of narrative they've crafted.

I'm not saying that her parents are manipulating her and the media. As far as I'm concerned, Greta is doing all this on her own initiative, with the enthusiastic and entirely appropriate support of her parents.

But I am saying that, from a purely skeptical perspective, your citation is credulous crap, evidence of nothing at all*, and you should be embarrassed to have presented it here.

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*Nothing other than that the media is not your friend, of course.
 
a_unique_person said:
Brave is opening yourself up to public pillory Greta it's now exposed to. Many sensible people who would otherwise make great public figures can't bear the thought of doing so.
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I know/knew a lot of brave people.. She wouldn't make the cut.

She chose to expose herself to public scrutiny and hopefully cash in. Much like running for political office..
 
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It's not Greta that keeps me wary, it's the environmentalist agenda.

She is part of that and some of them are behind her in this mission.

Within what fits my budget and lifestyle myself and my family have stepped up. Greta didn't shame me into it. I had not known of her then. What isn't useful or practical cannot be considered.

Some eco friendly solutions I have used, am using today are barely adequate but good enough to hold in light duty uses, like using solar garden lights as hallway lights, we cannot have a dark house at night in case a bathroom run is required. Two residents will not go into our dark hallways.
Near all lights in the house are LED now, I know that made a difference.
 
8enotto said:
It's not Greta that keeps me wary, it's the environmentalist agenda.

She is part of that and some of them are behind her in this mission.

Within what fits my budget and lifestyle myself and my family have stepped up. Greta didn't shame me into it. I had not known of her then. What isn't useful or practical cannot be considered.

Some eco friendly solutions I have used, am using today are barely adequate but good enough to hold in light duty uses, like using solar garden lights as hallway lights, we cannot have a dark house at night in case a bathroom run is required. Two residents will not go into our dark hallways.
Near all lights in the house are LED now, I know that made a difference.
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Why is it that people looking past the immediate future and deciding to save a bit of planet for future generations are the ones that "have an agenda", while profiteers that can't see past their own stock options who are willing to render swaths of land unusable for the foreseeable future somehow have no 'agenda'?

Marketing coup of the millennia...
 
Probably been posted already, but the thread has gotten to big for me to trawl through, to look.

Far out.

And before people give the "she is only 16" defence, you were claiming she was a child genius who has thoroughly research climate change a few pages ago.

 
cullennz said:
Probably been posted already, but the thread has gotten to big for me to trawl through, to look.

Far out.

And before people give the "she is only 16" defence, you were claiming she was a child genius who has thoroughly research climate change a few pages ago.

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No one has ever claimed she was a genius. Could you point out anyone here who has? She keeps saying listen to the scientists. For some reason she has captured the public imagination. Don't blame her that. For all that, she comes across as being much smarter than the POTUS.
 
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cullennz said:
It just looks a bit like if she is asked a basic question rather than reading a script it tends to turn a bit pear shaped.
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Just like politicians then.

You just can’t stand the fact that millions are listening to her and are starting to ask awkward questions of world leaders. You are in good company. Trump and Morrison feel the same.
 
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