The Trials of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito: Part 29

[Vixen]

Please refrain from using the familiar term for the victim of this crime. It's disgusting that you continue to do so.

You don't get to tell me what to do.

 

[Stacyhs]

Originally Posted by Vixen
<fx blah blah blah>

So you make yourself at home in the boys flat whilst one of you drags a chair into the bathroom in order to step up onto the bath ledge to keep a watch out of the window for when she arrives.

Imagine the look on her face when the three of you confront her and have a little fun torturing an pricking her with your knife as she becomes ever more agitated.

Such a good laugh!

For someone who brags that they only follow Court documents, it is revealing that none of the 5 courts in Italy even remotely agree with your slander.

The original Massei Court, even in convicting in 2009, wrote in 2010 that this had been a non-premeditated crime of Rudy's instigation.

Your revealing imagination says more about you...

The hypocrisy is what stands out to me. Vixen has criticized Knox for writing "a story about rape" in an effort to show how 'sick' she is. Of course, when informed that the story is actually an ANTI-RAPE story and asked to supply any quotes from the story showing otherwise, she does not. I agree with your last sentence.

 

[Bill Williams]

You don't get to tell me what to do.

Sigh. I'm not telling you. I'm asking that you refrain from this disgusting practise of yours.

 

[Vixen]

Sigh. I'm not telling you. I'm asking that you refrain from this disgusting practise of yours.

I don't agree with you.

What are you going to do about it?

 

[Stacyhs]

She also constantly harps on Amanda's parents being divorced and makes comments such as;

"The pair of you are angry sociopaths with Daddy abandoning you as a kid to start a family with another woman."

Yet she never mentions that Meredith's parents also divorced and that Meredith grew up in a run down shack. So Amanda is a sociopath because her parents divorced but Meredith is just the sweetest angel DESPITE her parents divorcing.

Extreme bias doesn't even begin to describe it.

Vixen also conveniently 'forgets' that Curt and Edda deliberately bought "two houses a couple blocks apart" in order for both to be close to and involved in their daughters' lives equally. Knox also states that she never once heard either parent criticize the other. She also conveniently 'forgets' how much BOTH her parents stood by her side and fought for her TOGETHER for years during this debacle. No, Vixen would rather disparage Curt and Edda based on her own warped, black and white views.

 

[Stacyhs]

I am not troubled. I always thought you were a bit troubled.

She didn't break in. She knew where the key was.

And yet.....I've never seen TC write anything even remotely as disturbing as your latest contribution to, as fittingly described, a "fevered imagination".

 

[Stacyhs]

Meredith lived in middle-class Coulsden. Mez never murdered or was violent towards anyone. Yes, she seems to have been a thoroughly nice person.

Amanda lived in middle-class Seattle. Amanda never murdered or was violent towards anyone. Yes, she seems to be a thoroughly nice person.

 

[Bill Williams]

I don't agree with you.

What are you going to do about it?

<fx Na na na na na>

This response is proof you're being disgustingly disingenuous about it's misuse. You intend it's use as a means to ingratiate yourself, in your own mind anyways, with the victim, and thus gain, again in your own mind, a false sense of intimate superiority over others.

You've hijacked a familiar name for your own selfish, creepy purpose. Have at it. It reveals all that needs to be said about you.

 

[Stacyhs]

You see, that has absolutely nothing to do with your specious "argument".
Why am I not surprised?


(Oh and what "crime" are you referring to? You do know that, for example, there's also zero credible, reliable evidence that the Moon landings were faked or that the Mafia killed JFK?)

This is Vixen's method of operation as we are all well aware.

 

[Stacyhs]

You don't get to tell me what to do.

Clearly, someone should.

 

[Numbers]

Amanda lived in middle-class Seattle. Amanda never murdered or was violent towards anyone. Yes, she seems to be a thoroughly nice person.

Amanda was unfairly targeted as a suspect by Italian authorities, wrongfully provisionally convicted of the murder/rape of Meredith Kercher by two arbitrary Italian courts before being fully and finally acquitted by an irreversible judgment of the Italian Supreme Court of Cassation, and remains unfairly convicted by the Italian courts of calunnia against Diya (Patrick) Lumumba - a conviction found in a final judgment by the ECHR, an international court, to be the result of violations of her rights under the European Convention on Human Rights.

I believe it is the unfairness and arbitrariness of the actions against Amanda which largely motivates the guilt hoax of the PGP. As evidence, note that the PGP are silent about the crimes of Rudy Guede, the actual convicted murderer of Meredith Kercher.

 

[LondonJohn]

You don't get to tell me what to do.

I think if you read it again, you'll see that it's a polite request - not a demand.

(Again, I'm not surprised at your misinterpretation, and I can only guess at the reasons behind it....)

 

[Stacyhs]

Actually, it wasn't Guede who claimed this it was some guy called 'Free Rudy Guede' on Twitter. Certianly a chair had been pulled to the window and one can speculate that someone did so to look out of the bathroom window. What did it overlook? The car park.

Someone was was definitely in there - either one of the three - as I can't imagine Mez did anything more downstairs than feed the cat or water the plants. There wasn't anyone for her to frolic on Bonassi's bed with.

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believe it is the unfairness and arbitrariness of the actions against Amanda which largely motivates the guilt hoax of the PGP. As evidence, note that the PGP are silent about the crimes of Rudy Guede, the actual convicted murderer of Meredith Kercher.

They are largely silent about Guede, preferring to concentrate on attacking Knox (and to lesser degree Sollecito whom they generally only mention in relation to attacking Knox). But what is also appalling is to have someone repeat a totally fictitious story that Guede "himself said he was downstairs, standing on a chair in the boys' bathroom to see who was pulling up in the car park outside." I mean, really....repeating what some Free Rudy Guede moron says?

 

[Bill Williams]

Guilter-nutters don't even believe the convicting courts!!!!!!!

They are largely silent about Guede, preferring to concentrate on attacking Knox (and to lesser degree Sollecito whom they generally only mention in relation to attacking Knox). But what is also appalling is to have someone repeat a totally fictitious story that Guede "himself said he was downstairs, standing on a chair in the boys' bathroom to see who was pulling up in the car park outside." I mean, really....repeating what some Free Rudy Guede moron says?

It's amazing that the guilter-nutters have ALWAYS let Rudy Guede off the hook - this, even though the first court which had provisionally convicted AK and RS said that the crime's motivation was found in Rudy....

It is not possible, however, to know if Rudy went to Meredith’s room on his own initiative, almost subjugated by the situation which he interpreted in erotic terms
(the two young lovers in their room and Meredith who was on her own in the room
right next to it) or, instead, he went to Meredith’s room at the urging of Amanda
and/or Raffaele.

This Court is inclined towards the first hypothesis.
It cannot see, in fact, the motive for such an invitation on the part of Amanda Knox and/or of Raffaele Sollecito. Besides, Rudy does not seem to have needed to be
encouraged to make advances toward Meredith.​

Regardless, Vixen posts long, long diatribes where she slanders AK (and lesser so, Raffaele) about fictional psychological ills, jealousies and such.

Guilter-nutters don't even believe the convicting courts!!!!!!!

 

[Stacyhs]

It's amazing that the guilter-nutters have ALWAYS let Rudy Guede off the hook - this, even though the first court which had provisionally convicted AK and RS said that the crime's motivation was found in Rudy....

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Regardless, Vixen posts long, long diatribes where she slanders AK (and lesser so, Raffaele) about fictional psychological ills, jealousies and such.

Guilter-nutters don't even believe the convicting courts!!!!!!!

Yep, Amanda was sooooooo jealous of Meredith (and her skier boyfriend relationship and her stealing Amanda's job at Le Chic), that she just had to take out a large, unprotected kitchen knife she was lugging around in her purse (with no damage to it) and stab Meredith to death. Uh huh. Sure. You betcha.

 

[TruthCalls]

I am not troubled. I always thought you were a bit troubled.

She didn't break in. She knew where the key was.

What makes you think Amanda knew where the key to the downstairs was? Meredith was the one dating someone downstairs. Meredith was the one watering the pot plants downstairs. It's logical to reason Meredith was carrying the key. I seriously doubt there were multiple keys for the downstairs just hanging out upstairs, but maybe you can prove otherwise?

 

[Stacyhs]

I'm still wondering why AK or RS would go downstairs in the first place. After all, didn't they spend the night upstairs cleaning up all their invisible DNA and fingerprints?

PGP logic is not logical.

 

[TruthCalls]

Meredith lived in middle-class Coulsden. Mez never murdered or was violent towards anyone. Yes, she seems to have been a thoroughly nice person.

From a Newsweek article written by none other than Barbie Nadeau;

"She and her husband, John, divorced when their four children were young, and Arline raised the kids in the ramshackle family home in Coulsdon, Surrey—near London—where the gutters hung perilously from the roof and faded curtains adorned the windows."

Doesn't sound like they were living in ideal middle class conditions, but I guess you know better. As has been mentioned, Amanda grew up in Seattle, a beautiful city, and both her parents lived in nice middle class homes. Raffaele grew up in moderate wealth.

Neither Amanda or Meredith murdered, or ever showed violence to anyone. And they both seem to have been thoroughly nice people, so your argument is specious.

But none of this really matters. The point is, you made yet hateful, classless comment. In case you forgot, here is what you said;

"The pair of you are angry sociopaths with Daddy abandoning you as a kid to start a family with another woman."

And as it turns out, since Meredith's parents split and Daddy abandoned her, I guess you're claiming Meredith was an angry sociopath? Either that or you're a hypocrite as well.

 

[TruthCalls]

I'm still wondering why AK or RS would go downstairs in the first place. After all, didn't they spend the night upstairs cleaning up all their invisible DNA and fingerprints?

PGP logic is not logical.

Well duh - it was so they could get a much better view of the embankment.

 

[Vixen]

<fx Na na na na na>

This response is proof you're being disgustingly disingenuous about it's misuse. You intend it's use as a means to ingratiate yourself, in your own mind anyways, with the victim, and thus gain, again in your own mind, a false sense of intimate superiority over others.

You've hijacked a familiar name for your own selfish, creepy purpose. Have at it. It reveals all that needs to be said about you.

Stop talking bollocks.