The Trump Presidency: Sweet/Sweat 16

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Segnosaur said:
Would he really have been the only candidate that "had a chance" in 2016 against Hillary?

Yes, Trump won, but he ended up getting less votes than Romney. (His victory probably had as much to do with Clinton's unpopularity, and general Democratic miscalculations than anything else, something that would have been of help to any potential Republican nominee.)

Granted, some of the alternative candidates (like Ted "Machine Gun Bacon" Cruz) didn't exactly have much charisma, but there were others (such as Kasich) who might have had a good shot at winning.
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Cruz had no chance. If Trump were out of the race, did Kasich have a chance? I think they would have run Cruz if there were no Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2016_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries
 
dudalb said:
BTW I think the importance of tomorrow's special election is being really overblown.
I think the Republican will win; which should surprise nobody in a red district.
There is less in this then meets the eye.
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We'll find out in a few hours.

The 2018 election there was already something of a surprise to the GOP, since McCready only lost by 1/3rd of 1% of the total vote in a district which had voted Republican in every election since 1963, and was considered a lock.

And that was with all the cheating they did.
 
Mojo said:
Was he not sufficiently bonkers?
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They are different flavours of bonkers. Bolton has never seen a foreign government he didn’t want to carpet bomb and Trump has never met an autocrat he didn’t want to smarm up to and emulate. It could never last.
 
angrysoba said:
They are different flavours of bonkers. Bolton has never seen a foreign government he didn’t want to carpet bomb and Trump has never met an autocrat he didn’t want to smarm up to and emulate. It could never last.
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Ha!

In all seriousness, I think that might be close to accurate.
 
angrysoba said:
They are different flavours of bonkers. Bolton has never seen a foreign government he didn’t want to carpet bomb and Trump has never met an autocrat he didn’t want to smarm up to and emulate. It could never last.
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kellyb said:
Ha!

In all seriousness, I think that might be close to accurate.
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It's down right pithy! So I nominated it.
 
quadraginta said:
We'll find out in a few hours.

The 2018 election there was already something of a surprise to the GOP, since McCready only lost by 1/3rd of 1% of the total vote in a district which had voted Republican in every election since 1963, and was considered a lock.

And that was with all the cheating they did.
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I just thing the district involved is not really a swing district, and a blue win would be a pretty big upset.
I just think making a big deal out of this is a mistake. A red win should be expected, and the Dems should not go into a despair mode because they lost. If the win, yeah,they should be very happy, but acting like this is going to be a predictor of next year is a mistake.
 
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How far have we fallen to where people were calling John, Bat **** Crazy Bolton an adult in the room? Could Pompeo and the Mnuchin creature couldn't have looked like more of a couple of lick spittles if they tried. Those two and the Ross person clearly are bereft of all manhood.
 
dudalb said:
Bolton's gone, but we have another '"You did not fire me, I quit" controversy going.
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To be honest, who cares? We know the administration is constantly in chaos. We know both of them are pieces of trash. The two of them can squabble all they want about who fired who. The rest of us can only hope it splits the right-wing.
 
dudalb said:
That the basic problem the GOP Has:

How to you appeal to minorities without alienating the white nationalist who
make up the core of your party?

IMHO it will be too hard an act to do.
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Well, I think they have a different solution, binging and purging. They spend
billions bringing in new voters while at the same time driving away voters
who don't fit their ideological point of view. In other words the party now
selects the voters.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House. I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions, as did others in the Administration, and therefore....

....I asked John for his resignation, which was given to me this morning. I thank John very much for his service. I will be naming a new National Security Advisor next week.
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Devin! Devin! Devin! Devin!
 
a_unique_person said:
Trump has more humanity in him than Bolton.
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This is like arguing the value of zero versus the value of negative zero.

Personally, I like having around a guy like Bolton or Cheney. You know who they are and you can count on them flogging their reprehensible positions with some variation of reprehensible consistency. If, as I suspect, his next appointee is another lickspittle toadie (I mentioned Nunes, who's been pimping himself out for such a job) and you get Pompeo sucking up on one side, and Nunes doing his Wilbur Ross/Steve Mnuchin bit on the other, you're totally at the mercy of the whims of Trump.

I take to the earlier rumors; Bolton told him he was a jackass for proposing to bring terrorists to Camp David. Pence and Pompeo and Ross and Mnuchin all did their best imitation of the Toon Weasels in Roger Rabbit. "Yeah, boss! That's good. You do that boss! Yeah, bring 'em to Camp David where you can charm 'em!"
 
angrysoba said:
They are different flavours of bonkers. Bolton has never seen a foreign government he didn’t want to carpet bomb and Trump has never met an autocrat he didn’t want to smarm up to and emulate. It could never last.
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Nightmare thought: Suppose Trump (or his successor) was as evil as he is, but smarter and slicker? If he just stopped saying dumb stuff, he'd get away with even more than he does now.
 
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