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TragicMonkey said:
Yeah, and what I heard was that choice was advised by Obama. I don't know if it's true. But it fits the impression I've always had of their relationship.
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I realize the thread has proceeded from here (we're still stuck on the Creepy Uncle meme - methinks someone's - more than one - got a favorite candidate) but I wanted to address this.

Obama's a mensch. He owed the Clintons, Bill in particular, Big Time! Bubba campaigned himself hoarse for Obama, and it was no doubt a political decision by Bill and Hill to try to bring Hillary's supporters (who were no better than the Bern Boyz) back into the fold.

Ergo, it's not that he wouldn't support his own veep but that he was committed to supporting Hillary. If Biden announced, there would be the awkward spectacle of the sitting President not supporting him, or even worse, coming out against him. Cooler heads ruled and Biden decided not to contest Hillary's insurmountable lead.
 
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Distracted1 said:
Considering his opposition, I don't consider this to be a particularly worrisome angle of attack. Unless, of course, someone comes forward to claim that Biden actually did grab her by the pussy.
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On the contrary, there are so many Democrats in the running and a lot of them are so similar the voters are looking for easily-spotted flaws to eliminate some choices. Biden's handed in a resume with a basic spelling error. Even if you don't consider that a big flaw it's still a noticeable flaw, compared to all the other Democrats running who don't have the same issue. We're not yet stuck making the best of a single bad candidate so there's no reason to excuse him.
 
TragicMonkey said:
On the contrary, there are so many Democrats in the running and a lot of them are so similar the voters are looking for easily-spotted flaws to eliminate some choices. Biden's handed in a resume with a basic spelling error. Even if you don't consider that a big flaw it's still a noticeable flaw, compared to all the other Democrats running who don't have the same issue. We're not yet stuck making the best of a single bad candidate so there's no reason to excuse him.
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With regard to electability, an only regarding electability, Bidens weak spot of being vulnerable to a "pervert" attack is offset by the electorates' familiarity with him.

The tactic may even backfire on the R's., as transparent as it is.
 
Distracted1 said:
With regard to electability, an only regarding electability, Bidens weak spot of being vulnerable to a "pervert" attack is offset by the electorates' familiarity with him.

The tactic may even backfire on the R's., as transparent as it is.
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It's not the "R's" that matter here. It's the people who aren't officially "D's" but have usually voted "D". Until something a particular "D" does upsets them and costs that "D" their vote. Those are the people who won't vote Trump, but may not vote Biden, either.
 
TragicMonkey said:
It's not the "R's" that matter here. It's the people who aren't officially "D's" but have usually voted "D". Until something a particular "D" does upsets them and costs that "D" their vote. Those are the people who won't vote Trump, but may not vote Biden, either.
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Certainly.
This math works the same for each potential candidate. Will they bring in more voters than they put off? I think Bidens' pluses (wrt electability) outweigh the minuses that may be generated by a smear campaign waged against him.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
I don't see anything in that link that my post above missed. I did only skim it but other than the author's opinion Biden was most electable (I don't agree) tell me what are his other qualities. What did I miss?
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Biden currently does the best in Democratic candidateX vs.Trump polls. Is that in dispute?
That is pretty much the definition of "most electable", no?
 
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Distracted1 said:
Biden currently does the best in Democratic candidateX vs.Trump polls. Is that in dispute?
That is pretty much the definition of "most electable", no?
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It is meaningless until you actually establish that kind of polling at this stage actually has any predictive power.
 
Distracted1 said:
Biden currently does the best in Democratic candidateX vs.Trump polls. Is that in dispute?
That is pretty much the definition of "most electable", no?
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Polls are meaningless at this point, and certainly not something to consider.

Hey, I give BTC credit here for a well-said argument.
 
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The latest poll shows that among Democrat potentials Biden is hands-on-shoulders above the rest. But he shouldn't get complacent, because Warren's on the warpath and Buttigieg may come up from behind.
 
TragicMonkey said:
The latest poll shows that among Democrat potentials Biden is hands-on-shoulders above the rest. But he shouldn't get complacent, because Warren's on the warpath and Buttigieg may come up from behind.
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Thanks, I needed that.
 
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