Cont: Brexit: Now What? 7th heaven...

[Ethan Thane Athen]

I know far more Remainers than Leavers, and I have literally never heard any of them say that. In fact, most are even more intensely Remain than they were previously. In contrast, of the few Leavers I know, most seem to want to avoid the subject.

Good - I hope your experience is more typical!

 

[Mikemcc]

There are 313 Conservative MPs, even with the DUP's ten they're relying on abstentions, former conservatives and a few indos.
Now if Sinn Féin actually manage some moral; courage the number needed for a majority goes from 321 to 324 (allowing for the casting vote).

Sinn Fein will never vote on this, they refuse to take the oath of office.

 

[catsmate]

Sinn Fein will never vote on this, they refuse to take the oath of office.

De Valera did. Though he had more moral courage than the current leadership.

 

[Random]

Would No-Deal make an Irish reunification more or less likely? I mean, if No-Deal goes bad enough and Northern Ireland decides to leave the UK, then decides to rejoin the rest of Ireland. Or is that way to complicated and silly? Really don't know enough on this topic...

 

[Darat]

A harsh, but ultimately fair analysis IMO

As I've said all along, she was interested in being PM, nothing more nothing less. The first time we hear emotion is when she lost that. Johnson is exactly the same, he doesn't care one iota what the costs are to anyone else he wants to be PM. Actually as I was typing that I realised that he is different from May, he believes he is entitled to be PM.

 

[catsmate]

Would No-Deal make an Irish reunification more or less likely? I mean, if No-Deal goes bad enough and Northern Ireland decides to leave the UK, then decides to rejoin the rest of Ireland. Or is that way to complicated and silly? Really don't know enough on this topic...

Good grief I hope not.

 

[abaddon]

Good grief I hope not.

There are enough realists in the south and unionists in the north that I can't see that anytime soon.

For a given value of soon. I haven't checked lately, but unionists are heading to become a minority.

And realists are a worldwide threatened species at this point.

 

[Information Analyst]

I am surprised he is not dipping his toe into the water. Wait. I need a different metaphor. I'll be back.

Things one did not need reminding about....

 

[Information Analyst]

Sinn Fein will never vote on this, they refuse to take the oath of office.

Sinn Fein's problem is that they started refusing at a time when people though you had to take the oath with deadly seriousness. In the meantime the likes of Dennis Skinner have proved otherwise, but Sinn Fein have long paint themselves into a corner on the moral high ground, and likely indulged in some other mixed metaphors, as well.

 

[a_unique_person]

At least you don't have Donald Trump "leading" it.

Boris is waiting on the wings right now and bookies give him the odds to be next PM.

 

[Vixen]

As I've said all along, she was interested in being PM, nothing more nothing less. The first time we hear emotion is when she lost that. Johnson is exactly the same, he doesn't care one iota what the costs are to anyone else he wants to be PM. Actually as I was typing that I realised that he is different from May, he believes he is entitled to be PM.

To be fair to BoJo, he was good as London Mayor.

 

[a_unique_person]

He was the best mayor ever! So much achieving! MLGA!

 

[The Don]

To be fair to BoJo, he was good as London Mayor.

Was he ?

What did he actually achieve as mayor compared to either his predecessor or his successor ?

How's that garden bridge coming on ?

 

[Information Analyst]

To be fair to BoJo, he was good as London Mayor.

You can't be serious? The only thing he was good at was taking the credit for stuff initiated or nurtured by his predecessor (e.g. new Tube trains, the Olympics, bike hire scheme, etc.), and PR stunts to boost his own profile. He lied through his teeth during his election, such as claiming that bendy buses were "killing cyclists" (actual number zero), and once elected fulfilled his vendetta to remove them, much to this disappointment of us proles who actually used. He then spunked money like there was no tomorrow on expensive vanity projects like the utterly unnecessary new Routemaster, and the yawning chasm of stupidity that was the Garden Bridge. He also promised 40,000 new homes a year that - naturally - never materialised, and in fact progressively cut back on funding on social housing to zero in his final year in office (so nothing could be delivered during his successor's first year). He has since whinged about social housing quotas on developers. The ****.

 

[GnaGnaMan]

He lied through his teeth during his election, such as claiming that bendy buses were "killing cyclists" (actual number zero), and once elected fulfilled his vendetta to remove them, much to this disappointment of us proles who actually used.

Huh. TIL that the UK doesn't like bendy buses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articulated_buses_in_London

 

[Mr Fied]

You can't be serious? The only thing he was good at was taking the credit for stuff initiated or nurtured by his predecessor (e.g. new Tube trains, the Olympics, bike hire scheme, etc.), and PR stunts to boost his own profile. He lied through his teeth during his election, such as claiming that bendy buses were "killing cyclists" (actual number zero), and once elected fulfilled his vendetta to remove them, much to this disappointment of us proles who actually used. He then spunked money like there was no tomorrow on expensive vanity projects like the utterly unnecessary new Routemaster, and the yawning chasm of stupidity that was the Garden Bridge. He also promised 40,000 new homes a year that - naturally - never materialised, and in fact progressively cut back on funding on social housing to zero in his final year in office (so nothing could be delivered during his successor's first year). He has since whinged about social housing quotas on developers. The ****.

Not to forget the water canons he purchased from Germany that were illegal to use here.

And then when foreign secretary he stepped in to help a British citizen imprisoned in Iran, and did such a good job he got her sentence increased.

Throw in a couple more racist remarks and there you have jolly old Boris.

 

[Information Analyst]

Huh. TIL that the UK doesn't like bendy buses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articulated_buses_in_London

The thing is, they weren't disliked by users or operators, but other road users - especially taxi drivers - decided that they were the bane of their existence. Then press decided they were against them, and (on topic!) were not adverse to employing Eurosceptic pejoratives to frame them as something "foreign." Inevitable teething problems and accidents were over-reported, even though they weren't exceptional (e.g. per route mile and allowing for route characteristics, they were no more accident-prone than other types). The section on fare evasion on the Wikipedia page typified this, and it's especially ironic that Boris much-vaunted replacement also features multiple entry door, and so is prone to exactly the same issue. Like his campaign pledge to ban alcohol on the Underground (also unnecessary - there were already byelaws to deal with the issue), promising to remove them was an easy promise that wouldn't cost his office much, if anything.

 

[Archie Gemmill Goal]

Boris as PM would be a welcome boost for Indyref2.

 

[Mojo]

The thing is, they weren't disliked by users or operators, but other road users - especially taxi drivers - decided that they were the bane of their existence. Then press decided they were against them, and (on topic!) were not adverse to employing Eurosceptic pejoratives to frame them as something "foreign." Inevitable teething problems and accidents were over-reported, even though they weren't exceptional (e.g. per route mile and allowing for route characteristics, they were no more accident-prone than other types). The section on fare evasion on the Wikipedia page typified this, and it's especially ironic that Boris much-vaunted replacement also features multiple entry door, and so is prone to exactly the same issue. Like his campaign pledge to ban alcohol on the Underground (also unnecessary - there were already byelaws to deal with the issue), promising to remove them was an easy promise that wouldn't cost his office much, if anything.

Also, they were introduced by Ken Livingstone, so the Standard hated them.

And some of them were atheist.

 

[Darat]

To be fair to BoJo, he was good as London Mayor.

A rather strange use of "good".