Mueller Investigation pt5

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acbytesla said:
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Oh, now you delete your posts. Fortunately I have a browser for adults where I can go back in history and see what the state of pixels was back then (Vivaldi Browser). FTR:

acbytesla said:
In a different environment, I'd just tell you to go **** yourself.

But I'll rise above that and simply reply "what unadulterated nonsense". Putin is a corrupt thug. He has imprisoned and assassinated many critics and political opponents. Responding to your deceptive apologies of that cretin and his government is a waste of time. Those are real people that he had killed. Those are real people he sent to gulags.

I care not a whit that you find my criticism to be unfair or unworthy.
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Captain_Swoop said:
Donal Trump Tweeted

Why should Radical Left Democrats in Congress have a right to retry and examine the $35,000,000 (two years in the making) No Collusion Mueller Report, when the crime committed was by Crooked Hillary, the DNC and Dirty Cops? Attorney General Barr will make the decision!
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Because we paid for it? :D
 
Childlike Empress said:
cross-posting: apology accepted, but I don't think you should get away without the final nasty post saved for posterity so I let my previous post stand.
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My post was crude and for that I apologize. I'm embarrassed that I stooped to that level. Do what you will.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
What the actual known facts are that the leaks allegedly from Mueller's team called the evidence of collusion "significant", and said that Barr's letter didn't accurately represent the content of the report...
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I think we have all seen the collusion, starting with the Trump Tower meeting ("I love it"), the appeal to Russia to find "her missing emails" the same day the Justice Department says "Russian intelligence officers successfully hacked email accounts affiliated with Hillary Clinton's campaign," and the fact the day the pussy grabbing tape came out, within hours WikiLeaks was dumping DNC emails.
Beyond the Access Hollywood tape, two other events transpired online that day. The first was official acknowledgement by the U.S. intelligence community that Russia had targeted the 2016 election by hacking the emails of the Democratic National Committee and Clinton proxies — a story of momentous importance that would be immediately lost in the “locker room talk” news cycle. The second, coming just minutes after the Washington Post published its article with the Access Hollywood video embedded, was the fruits of the the aforementioned hack. This was the initial release of the “Podesta Emails,” laundered through the “transparency” organization Wikileaks. Rolling Stone link
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Though the evidence gathered may not reach the level of criminal conspiracy, it demonstrates the Trump campaign, if not Trump himself, certainly had some idea about what was going on and they were required to report the activity -- it's considered espionage -- just the same as any American citizen would be. Instead they kept quiet aka colluded. ;)
 
acbytesla said:
I first want to preface the following with this caveat. In no way do I believe that Putin isn't a murderous thug.

Nevertheless I was wrong to put words in CE's mouth. For that I apologize and ask the forgiveness of the thread. That was wrong.
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Did the right thing there. Proud of you. (rubs head)
 
Here are the thirteen Russian's indicted in February 2018 as reported by Buzz Feed.

  1. Evegny Prigozhin - Seen as close to Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin. At times considered Putin's "personal chef," Prigozhin is the owner of both Concord Management and Consulting and the related company Concord Catering. But those companies have been reported as a front for the Internet Research Agency, Russia's infamous troll farm. All three entities are listed as defendants in the case.

  2. Mikhail Bystrov - A retired police colonel, Bystrov is named in the indictment as the executive director of the Internet Research Agency, the body's highest-ranking position.

  3. Mikhail Burchik - A 31-year-old internet entrepreneur, is listed in the indictment as the executive director of the Internet Research Agency, the second-highest-ranking post.

  4. Aleksandra Krylova - Listed as onetime director of the Internet Research Agency and as the group's number three is the highest-ranking official whose name hadn't been connected previously to the troll farm.

  5. Anna Bogacheva - Bogacheva allegedly worked for a department inside the Internet Research Agency that was known as the "translator project." This was, per the indictment, the project that "focused on the U.S. population and conducted operations on social media platforms such as YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter."

  6. Sergey Polozov - Polozov served as the IT manager for the Internet Research Agency, according to the indictment.

  7. Maria Bovda - Served as head of the translator project, according to the indictment, though not much else is known about her.

  8. Robert Bovda - The alleged deputy head of the translator project and attempted to make the trip to the US with Krylova and Bogacheva. But the State Department denied his visa request.

  9. Dzheykhun Aslanov - At one point led the “translator project," joined the troll farm in September 2014 and oversaw many of the operations targeting the 2016 US election, according to the indictment.

  10. Vadim Podkopaev - An analyst on what the indictment describes as the "translator project," joined the organization in June 2014. He was in charge of doing research on the US and drafting social media content.

  11. Gleb Valischenko - In charge of "posting, monitoring and updating the social media content" for accounts run by the organization. He pretended to be different Americans or American grassroots groups on social media.

  12. Irina Kaverzina - Served on the same project and posted social media content posing as "multiple US personas," according to the indictment.

  13. Vladimir Venkov - Operated multiple social media accounts posing as American users, posting and monitoring content for the troll farm.
Buzz Feed link
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Belz... said:
But what's the actual answer? If the DOJ refuses to comply with a court order, what can anyone do to compel them? It's not like congress has its own police force.
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The courts can order the FBI/special prosecutor's office to comply with the subpoena.
 
Here are the names of the twelve Russian military officers indicted in July 2018:

  1. Viktor Borisovich Netyksho
  2. Boris Alekseyevich Antonov
  3. Dmitriy Sergeyevich Badin
  4. Ivan Sergeyevich Yermakov
  5. Aleksey Viktorovich Lukashev
  6. Sergey Aleksandrovich Morgachev
  7. Nikolay Yuryevich Kozachek
  8. Pavel Vyacheslavovich Yershov
  9. Artem Andreyevich Malyshev
  10. Aleksandr Vladimirovich Osadchuk
  11. Aleksey Aleksandrovich Potemkin
  12. Anatoliy Sergeyevich Kovalev

The indictment charges:
Defendants were GRU officers who knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other, and with persons known and unknown to the Grand Jury (collectively the “Conspirators”), to gain unauthorized access ( to “ hack”) into the computers of U.S. persons and entities involved in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, steal documents fromthose computers, and stage releases of the stolen documents to interfere with the 2016 U.S.presidential election...

Defendant Aleksey Aleksandrovich Potemkin (Потемкин Алексей Александрович) was an officer in the Russian military assigned to Unit 74455. Potemkin was a supervisor in a department within Unit 74455 responsible for the administration of computer infrastructure used in cyber operations. Infrastructure and social media accounts administered byPOTEMKIN’s department were used, among other things, to assist in the release of stolen documents through the DCLeaks and Guccifer 2.0 personas. Complaint filed by Special Counsel
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Belz... said:
But what's the actual answer? If the DOJ refuses to comply with a court order, what can anyone do to compel them? It's not like congress has its own police force.
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Yes they do -- the Capitol Police -- and either the Senate or House can send their Sergeant at Arms to arrest people for contempt of Congress.
 
The FBI describes defendant Aleksey Potemkin as a native born 36-year-old Russian male. He is an officer in the Russian Federation's Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff (GRU) and is currently believed to be in Moscow.

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Skeptic Ginger said:
The courts can order the FBI/special prosecutor's office to comply with the subpoena.
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You're missing the point: what if they don't comply with the order?

WilliamSeger said:
Yes they do -- the Capitol Police -- and either the Senate or House can send their Sergeant at Arms to arrest people for contempt of Congress.
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See, that I didn't know. They could, what, arrest someone from the FBI, or the IRS? Mnuchin? Barr?
 
Belz... said:
Do you have a source for that? The Wiki article is pretty short.
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He's right. Although it is obviously problematic to even attempt to arrest POTUS. The Capitol has it's own jail. But can you imagine the Capitol police showing up at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue with a warrant swore out by Nancy Pelosi for his arrest?
 
Belz... said:
You're missing the point: what if they don't comply with the order?
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No, you're missing the point. What's to stop someone from obeying the court order and not obeying Barr or Trump?


At this point in time, Trump is a pseudo-dictator, not a real one.
 
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