2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker

[kellyb]

I'm epileptic, and the progressives might have had me involuntarily sterilized.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

This is some scary propaganda, Trump 2020 the trailer:

 

[acbytesla]

The Christian Taliban is not identical to the Nazis. It's a totally different flavor of scary and crazy.

No, they're not. But I'm amazed at just how much they've jumped on the Trump train. The least Christian, least religious, least honorable person I've ever encountered. Not only does Trump bear false witness, day in day out, he blatantly committed adultery on multiple wives flagrantly as well as never turned the other cheek. And those are just of the few ways Trump doesn't practice the tenets of his stated religion. Not that he has a religion other than worship himself and demand that others do.

 

[acbytesla]

Progressives often don't know this, but eugenics was a big thing in America, too, at the time. And it was...progressives... advocating that scary stuff.

No. Not any kind of progressive I'm familiar with.

 

[theprestige]

No. Not any kind of progressive I'm familiar with.

You should learn more history and current affairs, and become familiar with more kinds of progressive.

 

[TragicMonkey]

Perhaps the term "progressive" means different things in the 1920s than it does in 2019? Nah, that couldn't be it.

 

[kellyb]

No, they're not. But I'm amazed at just how much they've jumped on the Trump train. The least Christian, least religious, least honorable person I've ever encountered. Not only does Trump bear false witness, day in day out, he blatantly committed adultery on multiple wives flagrantly as well as never turned the other cheek. And those are just of the few ways Trump doesn't practice the tenets of his stated religion. Not that he has a religion other than worship himself and demand that others do.

It makes zero sense to me, too. But I was raised Evangelical and started having cognitive dissonance over "the Jesus of the Bible" vs Christian conservatism as a fairly young kid. By the time I was 12, I was pretty sure the southern Baptists met "Whore of Babylon" criteria from Revelations. LOL

 

[kellyb]

Perhaps the term "progressive" means different things in the 1920s than it does in 2019? Nah, that couldn't be it.

It became a meaningless word by the 40's and has never recovered. But there's a hint of the tradition left with solid ties to history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Era

The Progressive Era was a period of widespread social activism and political reform across the United States that spanned from the 1890s to the 1920s.[1] The main objectives of the Progressive movement were eliminating problems caused by industrialization, urbanization, immigration, and political corruption. The movement primarily targeted political machines and their bosses. By taking down these corrupt representatives in office, a further means of direct democracy would be established. They also sought regulation of monopolies (trust busting) and corporations through antitrust laws, which were seen as a way to promote equal competition for the advantage of legitimate competitors.

Many activists joined efforts to reform local government, public education, medicine, finance, insurance, industry, railroads, churches, and many other areas. Progressives transformed, professionalized and made "scientific" the social sciences, especially history,[5] economics,[6] and political science.[7] In academic fields the day of the amateur author gave way to the research professor who published in the new scholarly journals and presses. The national political leaders included Republicans Theodore Roosevelt, Robert M. La Follette Sr., and Charles Evans Hughes and Democrats William Jennings Bryan, Woodrow Wilson and Al Smith.

 

[angrysoba]

No, they're not. But I'm amazed at just how much they've jumped on the Trump train. The least Christian, least religious, least honorable person I've ever encountered. Not only does Trump bear false witness, day in day out, he blatantly committed adultery on multiple wives flagrantly as well as never turned the other cheek. And those are just of the few ways Trump doesn't practice the tenets of his stated religion. Not that he has a religion other than worship himself and demand that others do.

Good! At least that’s where he departs from the Nazis!

 

[acbytesla]

Good! At least that’s where he departs from the Nazis!

?????? Thats almost EXACTLY like Hitler and his followers. Hitler said he was a Christian over and over and over again, although he never really practiced the religion and often embraced Nordic gods and was particularly obsessed with the Spartans. Yet Christianity was pushed by Hitler and the Nazis. Gott Un Mins enscribed on every German Soldier's belt buckle.

 

[Travis]

Yes, but what you said was:



Your position can be summed up by saying that a child who's sick in hospital should be threatened with jail in order to find a solution to truancy.

No, my position is that if a child misses that much time with no reason given then there is a suitable threat for jail.

 

[theprestige]

?????? Thats almost EXACTLY like Hitler and his followers. Hitler said he was a Christian over and over and over again, although he never really practiced the religion and often embraced Nordic gods and was particularly obsessed with the Spartans. Yet Christianity was pushed by Hitler and the Nazis. Gott Un Mins enscribed on every German Soldier's belt buckle.

Gott mit uns is a German military tradition that predates the Nazi regime.

 

[TragicMonkey]

There aren't many nations in history that declared God was against them.

 

[SezMe]

I can't read your mind. I don't know why you think he is less likely to be elected.

Oh for christ's sake, Bob, think about it. Take your best guess. What do *you* think?

 

[SezMe]

Paine is talking about dividends realized from exploiting natural resources.<snip>

Uncle Sam now highly subsidizes hydrocarbon extract. How about not doing that and using the equivalent $$s for distribution.

 

[SezMe]

Mayor Pete. Most of the other candidates are too old, too scandal prone or too political.

Too political when running for POTUS?? What?? There's no position that's more political that the president. Look what we have now: a non-political president who is a disaster.

What do you mean?

 

[SezMe]

This is some scary propaganda, Trump 2020 the trailer:

I didn't find it scary, I found to be dumb. D.U.M.B.

 

[Ziggurat]

Huh? Spinning off in all directions I see.

You can seek it here, but you can't see it when you do it. Figures.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Oh for christ's sake, Bob, think about it. Take your best guess. What do *you* think?

Because I don't want to assert a position that will incur a burden of proof.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I didn't find it scary, I found to be dumb. D.U.M.B.

Deep underground military base?