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The Trump Presidency 13: The (James) Baker's Dozen

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Blue Mountain said:
Is there a similar chart for Obama?
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Yes:https://twentytwowords.com/new-report-reveals-just-how-often-trump-lies-compared-to-obama/

Trump told 6X the amount of lies in his first 10 months in office as Obama did in his entire 8 years in office.

Throughout his eight years in the White House, Obama was untruthful on 18 occasions. Generally, his falsehoods tended to be attempts to make his policies look better or they were merely careless exaggerations.
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https://www.statista.com/chart/12338/how-trumps-lies-compare-with-obamas/
 
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Blue Mountain said:
Is there a similar chart for Obama?
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Stacys already gave a link. I was going to post the image directly, but it was uncomfortably large and I'm too feeling too lazy to shrink it. With that said, I do rather doubt the 18 number (Politifact has 150 mostly false and worse or less than a quarter of challenged statements, with only 9 Pants on Fire rated), but there's no real doubt that Obama lied to the American people overwhelmingly less than Trump (Politifact has him at about 2/3 mostly false and worse, with 97 Pants on Fire rated, for the fun of it).
 
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Stacyhs said:
Agreed. At some point, the blinders have to all from the eyes. If they still support him, it's because they like what he is.

Ronna McDaniel, chairwoman of the RNC, told Chris Cuomo recently that she doesn't look to Trump for her moral instruction; goes to church for that. She cares more what his policies are. She's admitting that it doesn't matter what Trump does or what he is as long as he gives her what she wants politically. I bet she sang a different tune when it was Clinton having an affair.
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I watched that interview of McDaniel with Cuomo, and while he did somewhat half-heartedly try and nail down her position on supporting trump's immorality, she really just incessantly deflected and moved the goalposts when it came down to giving anything like an admission. I came away with the distinct impression that she preferred to willingly remain in denial about trump's myriad moral failings.
 
TofuFighter said:
I watched that interview of McDaniel with Cuomo, and while he did somewhat half-heartedly try and nail down her position on supporting trump's immorality, she really just incessantly deflected and moved the goalposts when it came down to giving anything like an admission. I came away with the distinct impression that she preferred to willingly remain in denial about trump's myriad moral failings.
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I agree. Like H-Sanders, McDaniel deflected and evaded. She very much appeared to willingly accept Trump's amorality as long as he met her political agenda.
 
phiwum said:
I don't think he's actually commuted any sentences by this action. The folks on death row still have death sentences, but there's a moratorium on carrying the sentence out. If Newsom or the next governor reinstates the penalty, these folks still may be executed.

I don't know what grants the governor the right to put a moratorium on capital punishment, but I haven't heard anyone squawk that he hasn't the right, so I reckon that he has.
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The governor has the right to cancel an execution. All Newsom did was commute them to life all at once, not one at a time.
 
a_unique_person said:
It's actually difficult to execute humanely. No drug companies will allow their products to be used. How are you supposed to test that the person has been executed humanely?

Innocent people have been executed before.
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From the last couple of times this came up, I recall there are some better ways to execute people with easily accessible items, carbon monoxide or nitrous oxide are both well known and easy to get - one makes you sleepy the other makes you euphoric.
The problem I see is that many people want an execution to be torture\revenge porn, if the recipient isn't suffering what's the point? :(
 
Trump Tweets

General Motors and the UAW are going to start “talks” in September/October. Why wait, start them now! I want jobs to stay in the U.S.A. and want Lordstown (Ohio), in one of the best economies in our history, opened or sold to a company who will open it up fast! Car companies.....

....are all coming back to the U.S. So is everyone else. We now have the best Economy in the World, the envy of all. Get that big, beautiful plant in Ohio open now. Close a plant in China or Mexico, where you invested so heavily pre-Trump, but not in the U.S.A. Bring jobs home!
 
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Donald Trump tweeted
So it was indeed (just proven in court papers) “last in his class” (Annapolis) John McCain that sent the Fake Dossier to the FBI and Media hoping to have it printed BEFORE the Election. He & the Dems, working together, failed (as usual). Even the Fake News refused this garbage! Link
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What is this huge problem Donnie seems to have with John McCain? Anyone know? Damn. The man passed away, can Donnie Dumpster Fire at least allow the man to rest in peace?
 
Even KellyAnne Conway seemed a little rattled this morning when asked if the President is going off the hinge.

It won't be long now.
 
newyorkguy said:
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What is this huge problem Donnie seems to have with John McCain? Anyone know? Damn. The man passed away, can Donnie Dumpster Fire at least allow the man to rest in peace?
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Dead or alive.
Rich or poor.
White, black, green, or purple.
Man, woman, child, or elder.
Dog, cat, bird, or arboreal rodentia.

All sentient and ex-sentient beings are fair game for schoolyard antics in Trumpland.
 
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newyorkguy said:
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What is this huge problem Donnie seems to have with John McCain? Anyone know? Damn. The man passed away, can Donnie Dumpster Fire at least allow the man to rest in peace?
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McCain very publiclly defied his decrees and voted against the ACA repeal. Trump holds grudges forever. Something as trivial as death isn't going to stop him.
 
SezMe said:
The governor has the right to cancel an execution. All Newsom did was commute them to life all at once, not one at a time.
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That's not quite corect. A commutation would be a permanent reduction of sentence. He has granted temporary reprieves during his term. A future governor could reinstate the death penalty.
The order will prevent the state from putting prisoners to death by granting temporary reprieves to all 737 condemned inmates on California’s death row, the largest in the nation. It will immediately close the execution chamber at San Quentin State Prison and scuttle the state’s ongoing efforts to devise a constitutional method for lethal injection. No inmate will be released and no sentence or conviction will be altered, the order says.
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https://www.latimes.com/politics/la...-death-penalty-moratorium-20190312-story.html
 
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