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The Trump Presidency 13: The (James) Baker's Dozen

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Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

The ‘Jexodus’ movement encourages Jewish people to leave the Democrat Party. Total disrespect! Republicans are waiting with open arms. Remember Jerusalem (U.S. Embassy) and the horrible Iran Nuclear Deal! @OANN @foxandfriends
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Declaring that the location of another country's capital city is a priority for US Jews simply because they're Jewish is anti-semitic ranting.
 
Stacyhs said:
While not all who voted for Trump are bigots/racists, those who are bigots/racists tended to vote for Trump. Clearly they see something in Trump that draws them to him. I wonder what that could be?:rolleyes:
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While I understand that sentiment and may, in some circumstances, be willing to extend such a benefit of doubt for those voters, I cannot do the same for the ones who continue to support him after the events of the past more than two years.

They have demonstrated themselves to be unrepentant and probably irredeemable. Deplorables have become the hallmark of the GOP.
 
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quadraginta said:
While I understand that sentiment and may, in some circumstances, be willing to extend such a benefit of doubt for those voters, I cannot do the same for the ones who continue to support him after the events of the past more than two years. They have demonstrated themselves to be unrepentant and probably irredeemable. Deplorables have become the hallmark of the GOP.
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Agreed. At some point, the blinders have to all from the eyes. If they still support him, it's because they like what he is.

Ronna McDaniel, chairwoman of the RNC, told Chris Cuomo recently that she doesn't look to Trump for her moral instruction; goes to church for that. She cares more what his policies are. She's admitting that it doesn't matter what Trump does or what he is as long as he gives her what she wants politically. I bet she sang a different tune when it was Clinton having an affair.
 
Stacyhs said:
Agreed. At some point, the blinders have to all from the eyes. If they still support him, it's because they like what he is.

Ronna McDaniel, chairwoman of the RNC, told Chris Cuomo recently that she doesn't look to Trump for her moral instruction; goes to church for that. She cares more what his policies are. She's admitting that it doesn't matter what Trump does or what he is as long as he gives her what she wants politically. I bet she sang a different tune when it was Clinton having an affair.
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Trump has pretty much stuffed the RNC with toadies.
 
Trump just couldn't help himself, slipping in some of the very same rhetoric the Christchurch shooter had used ('an invasion') as he vetoed the Senate resolution cancelling his national emergency, mere moments after offering up sympathy to the victims of the shooting.
 
Stacyhs said:
Agreed. At some point, the blinders have to all from the eyes. If they still support him, it's because they like what he is.

Ronna McDaniel, chairwoman of the RNC, told Chris Cuomo recently that she doesn't look to Trump for her moral instruction; goes to church for that. She cares more what his policies are. She's admitting that it doesn't matter what Trump does or what he is as long as he gives her what she wants politically. I bet she sang a different tune when it was Clinton having an affair.
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If you think about it Christians also don't care that their God is inherently moral . He commits mass genocide, promotes racism, sexism, child murder, torture, rape, slavery and countless other atrocities.

But he loves you. :rolleyes:




Apologizing for abhorrent behavior comes naturally to them.
 
KDLarsen said:
Trump just couldn't help himself, slipping in some of the very same rhetoric the Christchurch shooter had used ('an invasion') as he vetoed the Senate resolution cancelling his national emergency, mere moments after offering up sympathy to the victims of the shooting.
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I found the wording very odd: warmest sympathies. Trump doesn't have sympathy for anyone other than himself. It's a symptom of narcissism. I think he flipped through his greeting cards stash and confused a sympathy card with a birthday card sending warmest wishes.
 
In the massive coverage of the New Zealand massacre,it's sort of going unnoticied that the Trump/Kim bromance seems on the edge of breaking up, with North Korea threatening to resume Missile testing.
 
KDLarsen said:
Trump just couldn't help himself, slipping in some of the very same rhetoric the Christchurch shooter had used ('an invasion') as he vetoed the Senate resolution cancelling his national emergency, mere moments after offering up sympathy to the victims of the shooting.
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I can only find the one word and Trump has used it before.

Vox: The New Zealand shooter called immigrants “invaders.” Hours later, so did Trump.

They go on to note other instances of calling migrants invaders.

I'm not saying Trump's words today weren't disgusting, they were. But it seems more like the shooter copied Trump's rhetoric not the other way around.
 
Apparently Republicans are reluctant to blame white nationalism for the NZ shootings.
The GOP Has truly sold it soul for power.
 
Stacyhs said:
I found the wording very odd: warmest sympathies. Trump doesn't have sympathy for anyone other than himself. It's a symptom of narcissism. I think he flipped through his greeting cards stash and confused a sympathy card with a birthday card sending warmest wishes.
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I'm reminded of the note he was holding reminding him to show sympathy for the victims while speaking to survivors of that school shooting.

KDLarsen said:
Trump just couldn't help himself, slipping in some of the very same rhetoric the Christchurch shooter had used ('an invasion') as he vetoed the Senate resolution cancelling his national emergency, mere moments after offering up sympathy to the victims of the shooting.
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Dog whistles. He's showing the racists and Nazis that he offers sympathy because he has to, while simultaneously reassuring them that he "gets" them.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
I can only find the one word and Trump has used it before.

Vox: The New Zealand shooter called immigrants “invaders.” Hours later, so did Trump.

They go on to note other instances of calling migrants invaders.

I'm not saying Trump's words today weren't disgusting, they were. But it seems more like the shooter copied Trump's rhetoric not the other way around.
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That kind of language has been around for a long time, at last check? I seem to recall similar white supremacist rhetoric being written back in the 1800's, for example? Thus, I wouldn't attribute the rhetoric to Trump specifically. He's not even remotely a pioneer in that respect. What Trump is is an invigorating figure and symbol for white supremacists.

dudalb said:
Apparently Republicans are reluctant to blame white nationalism for the NZ shootings.
The GOP Has truly sold it soul for power.
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Hardly a surprise, given that the Republican base was 89% white, as of 2013, and there's been little reason for that to change much. Also, again, one of their major long term strategies has been that they've been trying to make their white base feel victimized to motivate them to vote, especially in the Obama years and the Trump years. This isn't even remotely the first time that the GOP showed strong displeasure with the very concept of condemning white supremacist violence.

ETA: Ahh, right. It is likely worth repeating, again, that the Trump Administration has pointedly ended a number of programs that were put in place to prevent white supremacist terrorism. That's a bit of a political firecracker right there, especially if they acknowledge that there's an actual problem there that needs addressed.

On to other things, though.

Iowa Republicans want to make it legally impossible for many public college students to vote

True to form, Republican Iowa state senators have passed a bill out of committee that includes a range of provisions designed to make it harder or even impossible for many citizens to vote. Worst among these provisions is a measure that would ban college students at the state's three public universities—the University of Iowa, Iowa State University, and the University of Northern Iowa—from voting if they don't answer on a required form that they plan to stay in Iowa after graduation.
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There's plenty more WTF BS when you look at the list.

Mike Pompeo Revokes Visas of ICC Staff Over Investigation Attempt

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced the US will deny or revoke visas for International Criminal Court staff.

The move is meant to deter a potential investigation by the judicial body into alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by US troops in Afghanistan.
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Anyone else think that this is moronic and petty?

Missouri Republican proposes law forcing all residents to own an AR-15 and another one forcing all citizens to own a handgun

There are so many things wrong with this that it's actually a little funny in the WTF kind of way.
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
trump Tweets

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600 jobs over five years. Big Yipee! The Dow will hit 1055.... at least. MAGA!
 
Segnosaur said:
Another little loss for Trump:<snip>
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My (very limited) understanding is that he will be subject to an testimony under oath about his many ... what shall I say .... dalliances. He's got two choices: 1) lie, and 2) admit to a lot of philandering. Choice #1 is obvious for him.

But lying under oath is EXACTLY what nailed Slick Willy with impeachment proceedings. Could the GOP ignore the direct parallel? Yes, of course, but it might be entertaining.

The big question: would such testimony be made public?
 
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SezMe said:
My (very limited) understanding is that he will be subject to an testimony under oath about his many ... what shall I say .... dalliances. He's got two choices: 1) lie, and 2) admit to a lot of philandering. Choice #1 is obvious for him.

But lying under oath is EXACTLY what nailed Slick Willy with impeachment proceedings. Could the GOP ignore the direct parallel? Yes, of course, but it might be entertaining.

The big question: would such testimony be made public?
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Speaking of dalliances... Looks like the Stormy Daniel's saga isn't over yet.

Former Fox News reporter will now testify to Congress despite non-disclosure agreement with network

Falzone attorney Nancy Erika Smith appeared again on “The Beat” after they received the request from Rep. Cummings and she said Falzone will comply with the Congressional inquiry. “The law requires that you be allowed to participate in any government investigation — and no NDA can stop that.”
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https://twitter.com/BettyBowers/status/1106658917084479488

Trump dismissed White Nationalism as a growing threat today.

FACT CHECK: Every single American killed by extremists in 2018 was murdered by a white supremacist or far right extremist. Every. One.
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Also: https://twitter.com/BettyBowers/status/1106689254950928384

The only time Donald Trump says “I don’t know enough about it yet to comment” is when a white supremacist has murdered people.

Otherwise, nobody knows more about *anything* than Donald.
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