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National Emergency

Norman Alexander said:
He wants a "special deal" with "special exceptions" just for him. Doesn't want to play by the rules. Or to put it more bluntly, he wants to cheat...as usual.
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This,
FOr the record, I did not like when some Dems started talking about what one of their Presidents could do with declaring emergencies. It's a terrible idea,I don't care who does it or if what you want to implement is a great idea. It's just wrong, and huge step on the road to an authoritarian state. Not that far from an "Enabling Law" in fact.
 
Trump Tweets

I look forward to VETOING the just passed Democrat inspired Resolution which would OPEN BORDERS while increasing Crime, Drugs, and Trafficking in our Country. I thank all of the Strong Republicans who voted to support Border Security and our desperately needed WALL!
 
dudalb said:
This,
FOr the record, I did not like when some Dems started talking about what one of their Presidents could do with declaring emergencies. It's a terrible idea,I don't care who does it or if what you want to implement is a great idea. It's just wrong, and huge step on the road to an authoritarian state. Not that far from an "Enabling Law" in fact.
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I don't think you would be Robinson Crusoe in that. However I suspect they are doing that simply to impress on Trump the precedent he is setting for his "enemies", and to forcefully reminding the GOP that what is good for the goose is good for the gander. It's the only language either of them seem to understand just now. It appears in voting against Trump, some GOP senators got that message loud and clear.
 
dudalb said:
This,
FOr the record, I did not like when some Dems started talking about what one of their Presidents could do with declaring emergencies.
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No Dems suggested doing it, they simply pointed out - with Republicans as their intended audience - what a precedent it would provide. Their efforts have all been directed towards preventing the precedent, which certainly doesn't suggest any intention to exploit it. Quite the opposite, in fact.


Ninja'd by Norman Alexander.
 
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Stacko said:
Only Susan Collins is up for election in 2020 and has not already announced retirement.
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Trumpian childish nastiness might provoke some of them into not going as quietly as they intended.


Ideally, of course, Trump will decide it's all McConnell's fault and start bitch-slapping him. Not because McConnell might react - he's too spineless for that - but for the entertainment. Narcissists are very prone to feeling let down by others when things don't go well.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

I look forward to VETOING the just passed Democrat inspired Resolution which would OPEN BORDERS while increasing Crime, Drugs, and Trafficking in our Country. I thank all of the Strong Republicans who voted to support Border Security and our desperately needed WALL!
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Given that the absence of a wall, the Trump Wall, a beautiful wall, people are calling it the Trump Wall, means that Crime, Drugs and Traffiicking are already flowing unchecked across the open border, an increase seems unlikely to be inspired by this Resolution.
 
phiwum said:
So, bird flu wasn't an emergency because there was no clear start date?
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There would be a start date, and eventually a threshold crossing for pandemics. In the case of bird-flu, organizations had planning meetings in anticipation of the threshold potential.

It was also considered an emergency when early thresholds were crossed.

I agree though with this Trump BS, define said emergency with any measurable parameters. He can't. All he has is fear mongering.
 
Stacko said:
Only Susan Collins is up for election in 2020 and has not already announced retirement.
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And she's working to get back in the good graces of the Democrats in her district because they are out to defeat her at the moment.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
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A big National Emergency vote today by The United States Senate on Border Security & the Wall (which is already under major construction). I am prepared to veto, if necessary. The Southern Border is a National Security and Humanitarian Nightmare, but it can be easily fixed!
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Everything is easy to fix according to Trump:

You’re going to have such great health care, at a tiny fraction of the cost—and it’s going to be so easy.
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We’re gonna beat ISIS very, very quickly, folks. It’s gonna be fast. I have a great plan. It’s going to be great. They ask, ‘What is it?’ Well, I’d rather not say.
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-“How are you going to build a 1,900-mile wall?” I asked.

-“Very easy,” he told me. “I’m a builder. That’s easy. I build buildings of 94 stories. Can I tell you what’s more complicated? What’s more complicated is building a building that is 95 stories tall.”
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The man's an idiot.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Only 5 more and it would have been veto proof.
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Eight more, surely? Override requires 67 votes, I think. Not that the House would vote to override in any case.

Adding eight votes to the twelve Republican turncoats is a fairly tall order. Not very close to an override.

ETA: Just to be clear, I'm joshing when I call them turncoats. No need to tell me off for that.
 
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