Dear Users... (A thread for Sysadmin, Technical Support, and Help Desk people)

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Customer: "My computer runs really slow when thing get really busy, between 1 and 2. Can you take a look at it?"
Me: "Sure"
*Shows up at 1*
Customer: "Oh I can't get off my computer right now, it's way too busy. Come back when it's less busy."
Me: "Errrr... okay."
*Comes back later*
Customers: "Well it's not doing it now. It only does it when it's busy."
Me: "......"
My boss has a standard reaction to this type of selfish behaviour.

"I have 30 minutes available TODAY ONLY to fix your problem. Then I have to go fix other people's problems for the rest of the week. Your 30 minutes started 90 minutes ago when I first turned up. So...sorry, your time's up! If you are still having a problem, log another call and go to the back of my scheduling queue. Ta ta!"
 
I usually don't even get the respect of getting excuses. They just literally shut down, as in literally sit at their desk and play on their phones, until IT shows up and moves every icon back to the same spot on the screen or moves a window from one monitor to another.
Tell them to go away for 5 minutes. Change the background colour or something. They will usually say "that's fixed it!"
 
Glad I got out of IT 6 days after I got in. Gawdamn you guys are angry. Must suck to hate your job and clientele so much. I'd be a fat, pale alcoholic by now if I'd stayed.


* Sorry Spellcheck, clientele is a word, but you are correct that Gawdamn is not.
 
Okay so the newest version of "Everything has to be exactly the same or I can't function" that my customer base has latched onto is the giggling "Oh I'm just so OCD fiddle dee" nonsense.
Grrr... it's not OCD. You pay attention to detail, or you like things in a particular way, but you do not have Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, with is a mental illness that devastates lives.

In other news, the other thing I hate is when a caller persistently breathes into their phone. I really hate that.
 
Grrr... it's not OCD. You pay attention to detail, or you like things in a particular way, but you do not have Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, with is a mental illness that devastates lives.

In other news, the other thing I hate is when a caller persistently breathes into their phone. I really hate that.
Whistle tunelessly at your end while you work. See how quickly they will hold the phone away from their head.
 
Whistle tunelessly at your end while you work. See how quickly they will hold the phone away from their head.
I usually fill dead air with actual information if I can. If I can't, it'll usually be something like "Hm hm hm... and just... select that and that, copy that to there... hm hm hm... and there. It's done."
 
I usually fill dead air with actual information if I can. If I can't, it'll usually be something like "Hm hm hm... and just... select that and that, copy that to there... hm hm hm... and there. It's done."
The idea in this one case is to make their listening more annoying than yours. Then they will move the phone away from their head even a bit, and thus no more annoying breathing noises for you.

Another solution is to put them on hold while you work.
 
The idea in this one case is to make their listening more annoying than yours. Then they will move the phone away from their head even a bit, and thus no more annoying breathing noises for you.

Another solution is to put them on hold while you work.
I would use the latter rather than the former. I try not to annoy the customers.
 
Tell them to go away for 5 minutes. Change the background colour or something. They will usually say "that's fixed it!"

I really don't think I'm getting across the level my main customer base operates at.

I'm not exaggerating for affect when I say I have customers who will, if they leave work on Friday and for instance the... Chrome Icon is above the Outlook Icon on their desktop but come into work Monday and for some reason the Outlook Icon is above the Chrome Icon they will literally stop and refuse to work until someone comes by and moves the icons back to their original spot. Any attempt to move information into their brains will be meet with a stubborn, oddly proud, and completely unflappable "Oh I'm not a computer person."

And the thing is... some of these people actually perform complicated tasks during the course of their jobs but they don't "know" how to do them in the literal sense. What they know is route memorization of tasks. They are pigeons trained to peck this button, then this button, then this button with zero concept of what makes what happen. They have zero actual computer skills and were in general never "trained" in any real sense of the term but just shadowed some now long gone person and watched them do it until they memorized the steps they were taking but with zero understanding of what is actually happening. It's all Cargo Cult Computing. All they know is what motions to go through, there's zero conceptual understanding of anything.

I used the metaphor earlier if I taught someone how to drive only by showing them the exact, step by step functions to perform on their car to drive to work but never telling them that the one peddle makes the car go forward and the other one makes the car stop and the wheel makes it turn. They know when they get to the end of the road they have to turn the wheel left and the car turns left onto the other road, but they don't know that turning the wheel is what makes the car turn left so if they ever have to turn left in any other context or situation they have zero idea what to do.

9 times out 10 they can't even verbalize "The Chrome Icon and the Outlook Icon aren't in the same spot." At least once a week minimum (much, much more if we've done an upgrade or anything that changes how stuff "looks" over the weekend) I have the following trouble call, almost verbatim.

"My screen looks different."
"Okay what's different about it?"
"I don't know it just looks different. I had everything the way I wanted it on Friday and now it looks different."
"What's different about it?"
"Things aren't in the same place."
"Where did what go? What has changed?"
"I don't know I just know it looks different? Can you get it back to the way it was?"

Which literally ends with me just moving icons around on their desktop randomly until I by pure chance get it back to the "way it was" in their heads. I then have to sit and watch them as they open every program, folder, file, and icon to "make sure they all work."

Change their background color? That would send a full 1/4th of my user base into full on existential crisis, I'd practically be pulling them out of Plato's Cave.
 
I really don't think I'm getting across the level my main customer base operates at.

I'm not exaggerating for affect when I say I have customers who will, if they leave work on Friday and for instance the... Chrome Icon is above the Outlook Icon on their desktop but come into work Monday and for some reason the Outlook Icon is above the Chrome Icon they will literally stop and refuse to work until someone comes by and moves the icons back to their original spot. Any attempt to move information into their brains will be meet with a stubborn, oddly proud, and completely unflappable "Oh I'm not a computer person."

And the thing is... some of these people actually perform complicated tasks during the course of their jobs but they don't "know" how to do them in the literal sense. What they know is route memorization of tasks. They are pigeons trained to peck this button, then this button, then this button with zero concept of what makes what happen. They have zero actual computer skills and were in general never "trained" in any real sense of the term but just shadowed some now long gone person and watched them do it until they memorized the steps they were taking but with zero understanding of what is actually happening. It's all Cargo Cult Computing. All they know is what motions to go through, there's zero conceptual understanding of anything.

I used the metaphor earlier if I taught someone how to drive only by showing them the exact, step by step functions to perform on their car to drive to work but never telling them that the one peddle makes the car go forward and the other one makes the car stop and the wheel makes it turn. They know when they get to the end of the road they have to turn the wheel left and the car turns left onto the other road, but they don't know that turning the wheel is what makes the car turn left so if they ever have to turn left in any other context or situation they have zero idea what to do.

9 times out 10 they can't even verbalize "The Chrome Icon and the Outlook Icon aren't in the same spot." At least once a week minimum (much, much more if we've done an upgrade or anything that changes how stuff "looks" over the weekend) I have the following trouble call, almost verbatim.

"My screen looks different."
"Okay what's different about it?"
"I don't know it just looks different. I had everything the way I wanted it on Friday and now it looks different."
"What's different about it?"
"Things aren't in the same place."
"Where did what go? What has changed?"
"I don't know I just know it looks different? Can you get it back to the way it was?"

Which literally ends with me just moving icons around on their desktop randomly until I by pure chance get it back to the "way it was" in their heads. I then have to sit and watch them as they open every program, folder, file, and icon to "make sure they all work."

Change their background color? That would send a full 1/4th of my user base into full on existential crisis, I'd practically be pulling them out of Plato's Cave.

Write a quick script in PowerShell. Have it take a screenshot of the user's dekstop, with icons. Then set that picture as their desktop background.

Hi-jinks ensue :D
 
Write a quick script in PowerShell. Have it take a screenshot of the user's dekstop, with icons. Then set that picture as their desktop background.

Hi-jinks ensue :D

Did that at an old job of mine. You also have to remember to remove the other icons. You learned to lock your PC very quickly there.
 
I really don't think I'm getting across the level my main customer base operates at.

I'm not exaggerating for affect when I say I have customers who will, if they leave work on Friday and for instance the... Chrome Icon is above the Outlook Icon on their desktop but come into work Monday and for some reason the Outlook Icon is above the Chrome Icon they will literally stop and refuse to work until someone comes by and moves the icons back to their original spot. Any attempt to move information into their brains will be meet with a stubborn, oddly proud, and completely unflappable "Oh I'm not a computer person."

And the thing is... some of these people actually perform complicated tasks during the course of their jobs but they don't "know" how to do them in the literal sense. What they know is route memorization of tasks. They are pigeons trained to peck this button, then this button, then this button with zero concept of what makes what happen. They have zero actual computer skills and were in general never "trained" in any real sense of the term but just shadowed some now long gone person and watched them do it until they memorized the steps they were taking but with zero understanding of what is actually happening. It's all Cargo Cult Computing. All they know is what motions to go through, there's zero conceptual understanding of anything.

I used the metaphor earlier if I taught someone how to drive only by showing them the exact, step by step functions to perform on their car to drive to work but never telling them that the one peddle makes the car go forward and the other one makes the car stop and the wheel makes it turn. They know when they get to the end of the road they have to turn the wheel left and the car turns left onto the other road, but they don't know that turning the wheel is what makes the car turn left so if they ever have to turn left in any other context or situation they have zero idea what to do.

9 times out 10 they can't even verbalize "The Chrome Icon and the Outlook Icon aren't in the same spot." At least once a week minimum (much, much more if we've done an upgrade or anything that changes how stuff "looks" over the weekend) I have the following trouble call, almost verbatim.

"My screen looks different."
"Okay what's different about it?"
"I don't know it just looks different. I had everything the way I wanted it on Friday and now it looks different."
"What's different about it?"
"Things aren't in the same place."
"Where did what go? What has changed?"
"I don't know I just know it looks different? Can you get it back to the way it was?"

Which literally ends with me just moving icons around on their desktop randomly until I by pure chance get it back to the "way it was" in their heads. I then have to sit and watch them as they open every program, folder, file, and icon to "make sure they all work."

Change their background color? That would send a full 1/4th of my user base into full on existential crisis, I'd practically be pulling them out of Plato's Cave.

I have a "things are different and IT support can't really change it" issue with my work PC.

We have Lenovo laptops and separate Lenovo keyboards for our desks.

The laptop has the ctrl and fn buttons swapped compared to the standalone keyboard. WHY LENOVO DID YOU DO THAT? I could understand if they decided to go their own way, but no, it was just their laptop.

Do you know how many times I have pressed Fn+C and Fn+V and failed to paste things?
 
I have a "things are different and IT support can't really change it" issue with my work PC.

We have Lenovo laptops and separate Lenovo keyboards for our desks.

The laptop has the ctrl and fn buttons swapped compared to the standalone keyboard. WHY LENOVO DID YOU DO THAT? I could understand if they decided to go their own way, but no, it was just their laptop.

Do you know how many times I have pressed Fn+C and Fn+V and failed to paste things?
Oh, god, yes. I had a Lenovo at my last job; luckily I mostly had to use it with a docking station and keyboard at the office, but it was a real pain when travelling or working from home.
 
I really don't think I'm getting across the level my main customer base operates at.

I'm not exaggerating for affect when I say I have customers who will, if they leave work on Friday and for instance the... Chrome Icon is above the Outlook Icon on their desktop but come into work Monday and for some reason the Outlook Icon is above the Chrome Icon they will literally stop and refuse to work until someone comes by and moves the icons back to their original spot. Any attempt to move information into their brains will be meet with a stubborn, oddly proud, and completely unflappable "Oh I'm not a computer person."

And the thing is... some of these people actually perform complicated tasks during the course of their jobs but they don't "know" how to do them in the literal sense. What they know is route memorization of tasks. They are pigeons trained to peck this button, then this button, then this button with zero concept of what makes what happen. They have zero actual computer skills and were in general never "trained" in any real sense of the term but just shadowed some now long gone person and watched them do it until they memorized the steps they were taking but with zero understanding of what is actually happening. It's all Cargo Cult Computing. All they know is what motions to go through, there's zero conceptual understanding of anything.

I used the metaphor earlier if I taught someone how to drive only by showing them the exact, step by step functions to perform on their car to drive to work but never telling them that the one peddle makes the car go forward and the other one makes the car stop and the wheel makes it turn. They know when they get to the end of the road they have to turn the wheel left and the car turns left onto the other road, but they don't know that turning the wheel is what makes the car turn left so if they ever have to turn left in any other context or situation they have zero idea what to do.

9 times out 10 they can't even verbalize "The Chrome Icon and the Outlook Icon aren't in the same spot." At least once a week minimum (much, much more if we've done an upgrade or anything that changes how stuff "looks" over the weekend) I have the following trouble call, almost verbatim.

"My screen looks different."
"Okay what's different about it?"
"I don't know it just looks different. I had everything the way I wanted it on Friday and now it looks different."
"What's different about it?"
"Things aren't in the same place."
"Where did what go? What has changed?"
"I don't know I just know it looks different? Can you get it back to the way it was?"

Which literally ends with me just moving icons around on their desktop randomly until I by pure chance get it back to the "way it was" in their heads. I then have to sit and watch them as they open every program, folder, file, and icon to "make sure they all work."

Change their background color? That would send a full 1/4th of my user base into full on existential crisis, I'd practically be pulling them out of Plato's Cave.
I hate to say this, but those users have YOU well and truly trained. And their bosses too. To me, this reads as blatant laziness on their part, which is being totally indulged. If they come to a grinding halt because an icon is misplaced on their screen and then resort to the time-wasting effort of getting you to come visit them and put it back and you then oblige...then I suspect they are more likely having a larf at your expense and using you to allow them to bunk off work for 30 minutes.

I would hope that in an economy where there is an abundance of people looking for work these days, they will be told to smarten up and get with the program or they will be replaced by someone who can do their job because they do know how to find icons on a computer screen no matter where they are.

Having seen this sort of thing only once or twice in my longish career now, I also recall one nice solution. It involved a company that billed back operational charges internally. For instances like this where employees deliberately repeated the same "mistakes" even after retraining, their division was billed a day's "consulting rates" for the technical effort taken to rectify each re-occurrence. That is, hundreds if not thousands of internal dollars at a time. The division head VERY quickly got the message. It usually took them only one round to make it stop...
 
Oh, god, yes. I had a Lenovo at my last job; luckily I mostly had to use it with a docking station and keyboard at the office, but it was a real pain when travelling or working from home.

Yup, nice PC otherwise - although I have sometimes found myself trying to use the non-existent touchscreen.
 
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