horrifying attack on Jussie Smollett

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Elagabalus said:
If they sent the letter then their ultimate aim might be to extort money from Smollett so the purpose of the attack would be only to scare him.

Remember we only have CWB and the brother's lawyer claiming that Smollett and the Bros hung out together.
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Why not just rob him during the attack?
Then it's put down as a robbery, unconnected to the letter.

If they don't know Smollett, it's even weirder. How did they know where he was that night? How did they pick him out to target?

The letter was already under investigation by the FBI, though.

Anyone who knew Smollett or was connected to Empire probably knew that.

Whoever sent the letter must have known the police were already involved, before the attack happened.
 
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LTC8K6 said:
If he'd said two black dudes said all that to him, put the noose on him, and dumped bleach on him, I'd have found the story even more strange. Muslims as well. To me, the story was strange in the first place, and altering the perps to Muslims or blacks would not have been more believable to me.
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Yep.

Related: Why isn't Smollet Smollett's PR firm blasting social media demanding that CPD leave these black guys alone and go find the real (white) attackers?
 
baron said:
It's the 'they' again. 'Some posters' do this, 'some posters' do that. Is this because if you named these posters they would ask for explicit evidence, which you can't provide?
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I think it would be a breach of the MA, except for those who are quite proudly racist. Even on that I may be wrong.
 
Cavemonster said:
You're ignoring the other consistency in when my hypothetical driver locks their doors. If they lock doors every time they see any human loitering, then there's not a reason there to suspect racism. If they do it every time they see a black guy and almost never when they see a white guy? There's something that needs explaining.
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Suppose it's a woman who locks her doors every time she sees a man, is she automatically a sexist ?
 
Cavemonster said:
You're ignoring the other consistency in when my hypothetical driver locks their doors. If they lock doors every time they see any human loitering, then there's not a reason there to suspect racism. If they do it every time they see a black guy and almost never when they see a white guy? There's something that needs explaining.
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That might be a way to determine if a white person is racist. But in this forum we see a lot of "X while black" threads where a white person in some cafe or whatever throws a black person out for whatever reason. That person is called racist at the ISF. But there never was an attempt or even an ability to look at the white person's past to see if they had done the same things to white people.

I'm probably regarded as a racist in this forum. But I'm not a racist. You can look at my past and see that I tear apart white people who I think are hoaxers or fraudsters or whatever. I tear white people in half and cut them to pieces all the time. And I often do it with sketchy or incomplete evidence. I'm not a racist. I'm a rabid skeptic.
 
Rumor is that a lineup will be used to see if Jussie can ID the two...which makes no sense given what he has said about the people who attacked him.

Would the lineup be some white guys and some black guys?
 
Stout said:
Suppose it's a woman who locks her doors every time she sees a man, is she automatically a sexist ?
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It can't be determined if she is sexist without further research. If it's found that she also unlocks her car doors every time she sees a woman then yes she is sexist.
 
Stout said:
Suppose it's a woman who locks her doors every time she sees a man, is she automatically a sexist ?
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Yeah, I'd say that woman would be using sexist reasoning.

It's the sort of quiet, private discrimination that doesn't necessarily hurt anybody, but it's still technically discrimination.

I recently caught myself crossing the street every time I saw big dudes coming that I'd have to pass. I sort of asked myself why. Am I afraid they'll hurt me? Most of these encounters take place on fairly populated city streets, so that's not very reasonable. Am I afraid they'll hit on me? Maybe, but that's kind of narcissistic and presumptuous of me, isn't it? If they're not already acting weird (lurching drunkenly, hollering at other women, giving me the old eye from 10 feet away), then there's absolutely no reason to suspect a problem.

Basically, I had to admit I'd developed some habitual sexism. In the interest of practicing what I preach, I've been making a point of not crossing unless I have actual reason to suspect a problem. It also occurred to me that a lot of men probably notice when women do that (cross the street to avoid passing them). If I were a guy, that might start to get to me after awhile.
 
Cavemonster said:
I think you've misread.

First generally though, do you believe someone can make a correct prediction for the wrong reasons? Do you believe patterns of behavior might be taken into effect?

If someone reaches to lock their car door every time they see a black guy out the window, are they not racist and operating on great critical thinking if one day a black guy they drive past is actually a car jacker?

That's the case here.

Poster's aren't racist because they doubted a story. They're racist because this is not their first thread. They ALWAYS think the black guy is the villain. And they go to ludicrous lengths to justify it. With reasoning that contradicts each other and often contradicts themselves. One might think it's the regular flow of bad predictions except for the level of certainty and bile the apply to it and the level of consistency in who they target as the villain. And the sheer number of angles they pursue to try to find a way to tar the black person as the villain.

If this were an isolated thread or what they did was merely make a prediction, your post might sort of apply. Not the case for many of the posters in this thread.
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I think this observation is valid but I don't think the behavior exists in a vacuum. Another valid observation is that the initiator of this thread often siezes on anti-Trump narratives that turn out to be misguided or exaggerated. He also initiated the Covington Catholic thread accompanied by a credulously hyperbolic and disparaging title. A poster in this thread chastised skeptical commenters while assuming the truth of every detail from questionable sources like TMZ (one of the comments was "The guy has a broken rib and a bashed face. Therefore someone broke his rib and bashed his face." but there does not appear to have ever been a broken rib).

Everyone should examine their own biases including you.
 
isissxn said:
I recently caught myself crossing the street every time I saw big dudes coming that I'd have to pass. I sort of asked myself why. Am I afraid they'll hurt me? Most of these encounters take place on fairly populated city streets, so that's not very reasonable. Am I afraid they'll hit on me? Maybe, but that's kind of narcissistic and presumptuous of me, isn't it.
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I would call it reasonable and prudent. When the cost of crossing and being wrong is much lower than the cost of not crossing and being wrong, I’d tell my daughter to cross every time.
 
carlitos said:
The guy on the right is too manly for a mask. Check out his nickname.


[imgw=350]https://i.imgur.com/Jk78vJA.jpg[/imgw]
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Man, Lucha Libre seems even more epic than WWF.

Lucha World Order (!): Golden Lynx

Blue Demon... Junior!

The Heir to the Throne of the Mysterious King!

And of finally...

Border Patrol, Son of Trump!

You know it's gonna be a compelling storyline, when the only thing standing between Golden Lynx and victory for the Lucha World Order is his arch-nemesis, Border Patrol, Son of Trump!

ETA:

Maybe The Heir and BD Jr. are filling in on the Lucha circuit while their fathers are in Chicago beating up on Empire actors.

(Also, what's the deal with the Phantom Buckaroo?)
 
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Two suspects arrested in connection to the attack of 'Empire' star Jussie Smollett

(CNN) Two men have been arrested in connection to an attack reported by "Empire" actor Jussie Smollett, the Chicago Police Department said Friday.

The men arrested were the same men that police previously said were being viewed as "potential suspects," according to Tom Ahern, Chicago police communications deputy director.

The men, who police said were arrested Wednesday, have not been charged.
Earlier Friday, police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said two Nigerian brothers were being treated as "potential suspects" and that detectives had "probable cause that they may have been involved in an alleged crime."
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CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/15/entertainment/jussie-smollett-suspects/index.html
 
LTC8K6 said:
Rumor is that a lineup will be used to see if Jussie can ID the two...which makes no sense given what he has said about the people who attacked him.

Would the lineup be some white guys and some black guys?
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What?

How can a lineup have any meaning when his attackers were disguised and there were no distinguishing features visible at all? It makes no sense.

The only thing that would make sense to me about this would be if his attackers really weren't wearing masks. Wait.......
 
William Parcher said:
What?

How can a lineup have any meaning when his attackers were disguised and there were no distinguishing features visible at all? It makes no sense.

The only thing that would make sense to me about this would be if his attackers really weren't wearing masks. Wait.......
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Or, really going out on a limb...what if they look just like guys he works with and hits the gym with?
 
LTC8K6 said:
Rumor is that a lineup will be used to see if Jussie can ID the two...which makes no sense given what he has said about the people who attacked him.

Would the lineup be some white guys and some black guys?
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Rather simple way to get Jussie to just walk right into the police station so they can arrest him too?
 
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