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If Elected, Would Warren Be the First Native American President?

If Elected, Would Warren Be the First Native American President?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 6.7%
  • No

    Votes: 31 68.9%
  • On Planet X, Master Blaster runs Bartertown

    Votes: 11 24.4%

  • Total voters
    45
You know what? Master Blaster is running Bartertown. People thought auntie Entity was a bit too standoffish and shady.

Also: no. Not even in a Rachel Dolezal kind of way.
 
No.

I don't believe in claiming some tiny portion of your ancestry as your ethnic identity.

Also Obama isn't the first black president. He's (maybe) the first mixed black (Kenyan) and white American president.
 
No.

I don't believe in claiming some tiny portion of your ancestry as your ethnic identity.

Also Obama isn't the first black president. He's (maybe) the first mixed black (Kenyan) and white American president.
I keep thinking this joke will get old for me, but it just doesn't:

Billy Clinton was the first black president. Barack Obama was the first woman president. Hillary Clinton would have been the first gay president. Elizabeth Warren will be the first Native American president.

And Donald Trump, of course, is the first human president.
 
I keep thinking this joke will get old for me, but it just doesn't:

Billy Clinton was the first black president. Barack Obama was the first woman president. Hillary Clinton would have been the first gay president. Elizabeth Warren will be the first Native American president.

And Donald Trump, of course, is the first human president.

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I suspect others have had as much Indian blood.

We have had a president with an adopted Indian child.
 
No.

I don't believe in claiming some tiny portion of your ancestry as your ethnic identity.

Also Obama isn't the first black president. He's (maybe) the first mixed black (Kenyan) and white American president.
Am I not the product of all of my ancestors?

I cringe when I see that.

The times they are a changin'------ but they change slowly.
 
I don't believe in claiming some tiny portion of your ancestry as your ethnic identity.

One-drop rule
The one-drop rule is a social and legal principle of racial classification that was historically prominent in the United States in the 20th century. It asserted that any person with even one ancestor of sub-Saharan African ancestry ("one drop" of black blood) is considered black (Negro in historical terms).

This concept became codified into the law of some states in the early 20th century.
You may not 'believe' in it, but for part of US history it was a fact. And not by choice for those being labeled.

Also Obama isn't the first black president. He's (maybe) the first mixed black (Kenyan) and white American president.
Obama was born in Hawaii and is a US citizen. His father was a black Kenyan - and Kenya is in Africa, so...

African Americans Law and Legal Definition
African Americans are citizens or residents of the United States who have origins in any of the black populations of Africa. In the United States, the terms are generally used for Americans with at least partial Sub-Saharan African ancestry.
 
^^the reason I don't like it when legal definitions are used to draw hard lines.

I think it stymies this sort of discussion.

Regarding the one-drop rule, I used to be a member of this majority African American Facebook group, and occasionally you would see Pan-Africanist Afrocentrists of various types, particularly the so-called hoteps, claiming damn near everyone with ostensibly black ancestry.

"He can say the n-word he's Dominican", even though he's light-skinned, even though nobody would ever mistake him for a black man, even though his ancestors were not subject to American racism, even though they never really assessed "how much" of West Africa he had in him, if any at all.
 
^^the reason I don't like it when legal definitions are used to draw hard lines.

I think it stymies this sort of discussion.
Yep - there's nothing like citing a hard fact to stymie 'this sort of discussion'.

You claimed that Obama wasn't black. Let alone that a cursory glance would prove otherwise, he is African-American by both legal definition and popular usage. Your claim is based on a peculiar reasoning that is generally only employed by those who wish to deny the facts. The question is why do it?

I can think of two likely explanations,

1. Racism. "Obama isn't really black, so he can't speak for blacks. Their leader is a fraud. He's almost as white as we are!"

2. Partisanship. "Obama is a Democrat, therefore we must take every opportunity to denigrate him - no matter how ridiculous!"

And the base will lap it up because facts don't matter, and any ammunition is welcomed. After all, "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!"
 

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